this is why i hate pcs....rant.. Call of Cthulha..

Turophobic said:
I don't have any problems as such gaming on my PC, but then I know what I am doing.
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We're not worthy! We're not worthy!

You assume because somebody has issues that its because they are doing something wrong?

Never had a bad piece of hardware? Never had drivers mess things up? These are things beyond peoples control, and don't indicate whether or not they know what they are doing.

:rolleyes:
 
Turophobic said:
I don't have any problems as such gaming on my PC, but then I know what I am doing.
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of course i do. Any self-respecting pc owner would at least attempt to get to "know" her...sorry i mean the pc. (innards and all)

if i was blissfully ignorant i would probably have went
"omg the game is broken" i better take it back to the shop....:D

sometimes too much knowledge is a curse!
 
ffallic said:
To be honest, this is one of the reasons I enjoy my 360 so much.

I do not want to give up my PC for gaming, so recently purchased a 3870 for things like COD 4, but had so many issues over the weekend.

The majority of my gaming will defo be on 360 from now on. Has been for the last few months. I just enjoy playing on the 360 more, sitting on bean bag. Its just more relaxing, and somehow more fun.
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I have the same gfx card & have no issue at all in cod4.
I have a 360 elite for 2 weeks now & only because some mates have it & my PC walks all over it in many..many ways.
 
Final8y said:
I have the same gfx card & have no issue at all in cod4.
I have a 360 elite for 2 weeks now & only because some mates have it & my PC walks all over it in many..many ways.
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It was the catalyst 8.3 drivers were causing my issues. 8.2's were better, though had to OC in Rivatuner, cause I was getting powerplay bug, and Ocing in Rivatuner disables 2d/3d clocks.

I am not disputing PC performance over consoles, and not saying consoles are better than PC or vice versa. All I am saying is that I have more fun on my console, and that I find it less hassle.
 
AbsenceJam said:
Badly coded console ports are what modern PC gaming is all about.
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Why... How dare you sir. We've had many fine and excellently coded ports in the last year.
There was Bioshock (as long as you don't play with a good mouse and like big rounded graphics and giant healthbars above enemies)
Turning Point Fall of Liberty. (configure controls using a diagram of a 360 controller).
Assasins Creed (because we all just turn our PCs off to quit out a game. don't we?)
Kane & Lynch ("Our one man monkey team *stutter* really put a lot of effort optimising this game for PC. We know you'll appreciate the *stutter* results")
Rainbow 6 Vegas (Vomits vaseline on screen and limits to 1280X1024 because that's what PC gamers like)
 
ffallic said:
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!

You assume because somebody has issues that its because they are doing something wrong?

Never had a bad piece of hardware? Never had drivers mess things up? These are things beyond peoples control, and don't indicate whether or not they know what they are doing.

:rolleyes:
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I don't think he's willy waving, just pointing out that you have to know your way around a PC and O/S extremely well to avoid problems. I hardly ever have problems either, but then I've got a decade of IT industry behind me. Even then, some of the problems I've come across over the years trying to get games to work have been pretty obscure.

It's just a great pity that you need that level of knowledge to get to the point where your PC doesn't play silly buggers when you just want to play a game.
 
I very rarely have trouble getting pc games working - it's the lack of decent games and variety/innovation in the games we do get that grates.

Now is quite a good example - my pc is getting on a bit, I want to upgrade, but can see barely anything on the horizon to justify the expenditure. It was the same with my last upgrade - there were a handful of games worth playing over the 3 years or so it lasted, whereas on consoles I must have gone through 50+.

There's huge a potential in pc gaming that is very rarely realised.
 
ffallic said:
We're not worthy! We're not worthy!

You assume because somebody has issues that its because they are doing something wrong?

Never had a bad piece of hardware? Never had drivers mess things up? These are things beyond peoples control, and don't indicate whether or not they know what they are doing.

:rolleyes:
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Not quite, I keep my PC up to date with latest drivers, hot fixes and updates. I tend not to install any demo software and keep my PC as "clean" as possible. I do not cludge it up with loads of conflicting programs or codecs. There is nothing you can do about a poorly made games or drivers, but I have not had an in game crash for quite a while now. I have not had any dodgy hardware since I ditched 939.
 
Sleepery said:
I don't think he's willy waving, just pointing out that you have to know your way around a PC and O/S extremely well to avoid problems. I hardly ever have problems either, but then I've got a decade of IT industry behind me. Even then, some of the problems I've come across over the years trying to get games to work have been pretty obscure.

It's just a great pity that you need that level of knowledge to get to the point where your PC doesn't play silly buggers when you just want to play a game.
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True Ive been trying to get games to work since C64 and Amiga 1200 days, I’ve picked up a lot of things on the way and can sort 90% and games which don’t want to run on my hardware. Armed Assault is one that got me though and still to this day with all the patches in the world it would run properly. Game developers do have a lot to do with this, but when your designing a game to work on hundreds of different types of rigs a little home made knowledge is required at times.
 
Can't remember the last time I had any serious problems with PC games. If you choose the right hardware, look after it and keep your OS well maintained you shouldn't have regular problems. Of course the odd game will always crash, especially old games, but consoles games aren't immune to crashing either.

I probably spend ten times the hours on PC games versus the 360 or PS3.
 
Its simple both platforms have their place in gaming , consoles allow kids to just plug in and play and PC's make the enthusiasts work for the experience.

So one person has trouble getting a PC game to run !!!shocker!!! its swings and roundabouts with PC games, it might be a battle getting a game to run near perfectly but the end result is a far better experience.

Its down to the individual, I prefer games like BF2/2142 , Medieval Total War II, Grand Prix 4 & rFactor that have genuine longevity not forgetting endless modable content, which is freely available..... i'll take that over eye candy and 4hrs of dull gameplay which the majority of console games offer..
 
Turophobic said:
Not quite, I keep my PC up to date with latest drivers, hot fixes and updates. I tend not to install any demo software and keep my PC as "clean" as possible. I do not cludge it up with loads of conflicting programs or codecs. There is nothing you can do about a poorly made games or drivers, but I have not had an in game crash for quite a while now. I have not had any dodgy hardware since I ditched 939.
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I have been using pc's for around 16 years, studied PC engineering, and work in IT. I know how to maintain a PC, and don't struggle to troubleshoot problems. Despite all this, I still experience problems from time to time, like many other people.

My pc was running problem free until I put in a card for some casual gaming (the 3870) and my problems started (when gaming). Both sets of drivers (the latest) I have tried have issues.

My 360, I put in a game it works. Well, except for that time the dvd drive failed, but I just took it back and got it replaced.

So its nothing to do with keeping up to date drivers, and nothing to do with poor pc maintenance. If you have not had a crash in some years in-game, then I'm happy for you. Doesn't change the fact that many do, and not because they don't know what they are doing.
 
ffallic said:
I have been using pc's for around 16 years, studied PC engineering, and work in IT. I know how to maintain a PC, and don't struggle to troubleshoot problems. Despite all this, I still experience problems from time to time, like many other people.

My pc was running problem free until I put in a card for some casual gaming (the 3870) and my problems started (when gaming). Both sets of drivers (the latest) I have tried have issues.

My 360, I put in a game it works. Well, except for that time the dvd drive failed, but I just took it back and got it replaced.

So its nothing to do with keeping up to date drivers, and nothing to do with poor pc maintenance. If you have not had a crash in some years in-game, then I'm happy for you. Doesn't change the fact that many do, and not because they don't know what they are doing.
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Well, why do console games work better than PC ones then? Could it be because a console doesn't actually do anything other than play games? Might it not have something to do with standard hardware throughout the range, instead of 1000's for different hardware configs ala PC? Could it be that the PC has various operating systems, where as an XBOX has only one? Yet I have seen the XBOX crash while playing games. The beauty of the PC is the ability to be able to use it for more than simply gaming. It also allows you to upgrade it a bit at a time, instead of binning the whole thing and buying a new one. I for one, will take a PC for gaming over console gaming any day.
 
Reiver said:
Why... How dare you sir. We've had many fine and excellently coded ports in the last year.

Kane & Lynch ("Our one man monkey team *stutter* really put a lot of effort optimising this game for PC. We know you'll appreciate the *stutter* results")
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lol, Kane & Lynch was the best example. That was a good GamesForWindows shafting I got when me and a mate tried it for lan co-op play.
What? I HAVE to use 360 controllers and can only play on split-screen? **** off. :)

That'll teach us to just read the specs on websites rather than reading the realistic PC user reviews.
 
apparently it was xbox only originally, and one of the programmers ported it to the pc on his own on a weekend he had free :p

it's a cool enough game, flawed in a lot of places but it's worth playing. has some really memorable parts.
 
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