This will all fit, correct?

I should imagine so, the rear most hard drive is only about 10mm or so from the 2 60mm case fans which is why he suggests leaving that hd space free.

I have a HD at the rear but I have been unable to measure my HD Temps, the HD utilities don't seem to be able to read off my drives, so I genuinely haven't a clue whether they are running to hot or not.
 
WoZZeR said:
I have a HD at the rear but I have been unable to measure my HD Temps, the HD utilities don't seem to be able to read off my drives, so I genuinely haven't a clue whether they are running to hot or not.
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latest version of speedfan should be able to tell you the HD temps.

its even Vista compatible now as well.

Speedfan
 
WoZZeR said:
I have a HD at the rear but I have been unable to measure my HD Temps, the HD utilities don't seem to be able to read off my drives, so I genuinely haven't a clue whether they are running to hot or not.
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HDtune has always work for me on all my Harddrives (sata & IDE ones )

This is the temp of my top mounted harddrive with the system just idling...
I would not like to see the temp with having two harddrives mounted at the top of a P shuttle..

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And the temp at the same time of my maxtor harddrive mount under my DVD writer..

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Hmm, neither Smartfan or HD Tune can read the temps, I have the discs in RAID, I need to find something to analyse the RAID temps.

EDIT: This is a known issue apparently on the Intel site. I have a couple of spare HD's so out of curiosity at some point this week I'll set them up as separate hd's and test the temps.
 
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Hmm, neither Smartfan or HD Tune can read the temps, I have the discs in RAID, I need to find something to analyse the RAID temps.

EDIT: This is a known issue apparently on the Intel site. I have a couple of spare HD's so out of curiosity at some point this week I'll set them up as separate hd's and test the temps.
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This is only a hunch, but have you tried Everest or SANDRA for HD temps ?

You are also correct, I was aware of the side fan location, but firstly it would only assist on the forward HD cooling and since putting an 8800gtx in I felt keeping the rear fans clear would be beneficial :)
 
UPDATE.

I rang up the company who claimed the 8800 GTX can't work with the Shuttle i want and i rambled on about other companies stocking it, plus 'friends' getting it all working PLUS the fact Shuttle says it'll work. The bloke on the phone (His name was Pav...) did a little bit of research and said he'll add it to the site for me and if i wanted to, i could take the order offline and he'll sort it for me.

He basically said there was a problem with the battery. :rolleyes: I asked if he meant the power supply or the battery to which he didn't really know and kind of said 'both'...hmm. Apparently the company had sent "hundreds" back to Shuttle in Germany to get it fixed.

Thought i'd update you. :o
 
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He basically said there was a problem with the battery. :rolleyes: I asked if he meant the power supply or the battery to which he didn't really know and kind of said 'both'...hmm. Apparently the company had sent "hundreds" back to Shuttle in Germany to get it fixed.
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sound a very knowlegable company :rolleyes:

Still better off building your own - so easy to work on.

if you can use a screwdriver without drawing blood then you can build a shuttle ;)
 
sounds like they are incorrectly diagnosing the "meep" when powering down with some earlier model 8800gtx's

also drawing blood during a pc build is the recommended method to avoid devilish behaviour during its natural life :)
 
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sounds like they are incorrectly diagnosing the "meep" when powering down with some earlier model 8800gtx's

also drawing blood during a pc build is the recommended method to avoid devilish behaviour during its natural life :)
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Explain the "m33p" and i don't understand the blood comment... :(
 
You really can't go wrong building a Shuttle, they come with lovely full colour instructions, all the cables are the right length, all the fans are connected, and if you have problems assembling it we are here to help.:)

If the SD37P2 had any weaknesses I should imagine they have ironed them out now with the V2.
 
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Explain the "m33p" and i don't understand the blood comment... :(
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the "meeeeep" is because there is enough residual power left in the graphics card to sense a voltage drop in the power supply and emits a warning beep via the piezo device/speaker on the 8800gtx when powering down [i.e. Shuttle dissipating the current in the mobo quicker than the 8800gtx can via the power connector/pci-e bus

the "blood spillage" comment was merely an attempt at humour on my part as an offering to the pc gods

I'll get me coat
 
Once again Stephen B is the chap to speak to, but my E6700 runs at 3.4Ghz Orthos Stable at the moment and an expert might be able to tweak it higher. There aren't as many settings as some motherboards but I got my overclock just be manually turning the RAM down to 533 and upping the CPU Voltage a bit. The latest Bios has a PCIe lock so in theory the 400 FSB is the limit.
 
Mm, don't know much about the topic so that sort of terminalology is zooming over my head...may play around a bit but it's good to know just how capable it is. :)

Obviously being a Shuttle, temperatures will be an issue and although i won't be overclocking it straight away, i'd prefer to ask and see if it really is possible.

/waits for Stephen B's advice about cooling a Shuttle and overclocking it.
 
well a no brainer would be an e6300/e6400, where you would be unlikely and unlucky to reach the chips maximum with the 400fsb limit [every 6300 I have had has went beyond 440 fsb with minimal volts], and you'd most likely get a 6300 to 2.8 without any voltage increase

recommend you get ddr2-6400 and manually set ram to 533, this should keep your fsb/mem ratio at 1:1

I currently use an e6600 @ 3.0 gig [no volts increase], but have also had an e4300 to 3.6g with 1.55v, but that is best left to someone who is comfortable with overclocking and monitoring cpu temps tbh

also there is a sd37p2 for sale atm in the trader section so you could save a bit

cooling is well handled in the Shuttle via its own heatpipe arrangement, so no need to worry

oh and thanks for the praise, but there are a few more experienced Shuttle experts in here so dont take mine as gospel :)
 
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Never realised Shuttles were so easy to overclock...i naturally assumed it would be harder to do because of the cooling side of things.

I may look at the E6600 instead of the E6700 as the 8800 GTX is quite expensive. :o

My DDR2 will be 2GB Corsair XMS2 Pro . :)
 
the SD37p2 wasn't so easy till the recent bios update, where it pegged out at 320 fsb due to lack of sata/pci lock

I use the corsair c4 epp myself and it seems perfectly stable
 
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