Thoughts on Excessive Speed
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Thank you.
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I always thought it was the type of person to buy a Lambo but actually I'm starting to think buying a Lambo makes them like the person
I think you're very much in the minority to have had that level of training and experience, and while it might be relatively safe for you to drive at those speeds, the majority of people on the road seem to struggle not to drive into things at normal legal speeds, never mind at multiples thereof!
Re. the Autobahn argument - people expect other vehicles to be potentially travelling at those speeds. If you're driving up the motorway in the UK at 70mph, you don't expect the vehicle in your rear view mirror to be closing on you at 80mph unless it's covered in blue lights.
Mix of both. Generally slightly unhinged before that go off the deep end after.
Two, both in my early years of driving prior to taking any sort of advanced tuition. One was caused by a mechanical failure when travelling at 30mph in a 40mph zone, speed not a factor. The other was the first time I got oversteer in a RWD car. No damage done to anything but my pride on that one. Took the lessons learned, not had anything even close since and have been pretty committed to bettering myself as an advanced driver ever since.
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And its then just a recursive loop. It isn't safe for "anyone" to drive at those speeds unless the environment dictates a reasonable expectation that people may actually be doing that.
The safety equation is
Your competence + your cars ability + other roads users
Everyone fails on the latter.
Although there is a great video of a lass learning about NSL roads lol.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect in all its glory
See, if you were driving up the M5 at 150mph you would have been able to see that coming and go back in time to stop yourself driving so fast because of the "not good" conditions!
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Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you a perfect example of the dunning-kruger effect in all its glory
Its not when its true though right
Oh absolutely yes, the environment is well understood with regard to drivers respecting other drivers etc. That isn't relevant to stone chips or sneezing which was the point I was making.
"The male of the species revs his engine loudly, hoping to attract a mate, but the female is unimpressed by his lack of horsepower"
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I've been a passenger with plenty of people who think they are amazing drivers, I've only once been a passenger with someone who actually had an extreme level of skill and an almost supernatural ability to read the road.
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You need to practice at speeding! The odd burst of speed is dangerous because people don't have the experience of driving that fast.
Very broadly speaking, when it comes to UK motorway driving, my opinion is that IN GENERAL it isn't worth the bother to aggressively speed. The odd little full-throttle jaunt here and there if conditions allow might be OK, but more often than not it is a lapse in judgement. There are too many other cars on the road and certainly by the time you get past 150mph you definitely are going too fast. Motorways are mostly built to a very high standard - I don't just mean the surface which these days might be poor but I mean things like radius of corners, visibility of merging traffic etc but they aren't race tracks, they are arterial roads and are designed to handle traffic at a predicted speed, plus a bit here and there. FWIW, Autobahns are much worse than UK motorways in these respects but what they have that we generally don't is long stretches with no or very few junctions. The difference is other cars and the complete lack of motorway driver training for UK drivers. That and the sheer quantity of speed cameras.
Most people drive by forcing the car to do what they want - few actually know how to work with the car at higher speeds - even those who regularly drive very fast.
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True enough. Most people are not skilled drivers, but they think they are. Watch a grand prix for real, and you realise that "high-street racers" are actually terrible drivers.
Couldn't agree more. I think it should be made mandatory for people to take further training, retesting every few years and so on. Even after 20 years of driving I am still learning things.
Regardless of skill the public road is not the place to be driving at speeds far in excess of the limits are they? I think this is the point many seem to miss in this thread. As I said, keep it to the track.