Throne and Liberty

Played a few hours and it seems pretty good so far.

I haven't spent any points or anything yet. I've seen a view youtube videos stating how you can completely mess up progression if you get it wrong in the beginning. I'll have to look up some guides before progressing any further.
 
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ShortWarning said:
Played a few hours and it seems pretty good so far.

I haven't spent any points or anything yet. I've seen a view youtube videos stating how you can completely mess up progression if you get it wrong in the beginning. I'll have to look up some guides before progressing any further.
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I’ve definitely screwed mine up then. I’m very tanky but my damage is useless!
 
ShortWarning said:
What weapon combo did you go for?

I don't even know which guides to trust on the net. I was thinking of Greatsword/SNS to be tanky.
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My build is Greatsword/SNS. I prefer a more in there smashing stuff up kind of charactor than standing on the outskirts. But having seen PVP everyones range, i have no chance of even getting close!

I'm finding it hard to find any usefull build guids as well, not many out there i dont think.
 
Cob said:
Never a good sign when a game needs a narrator to explain just what the hell happened after every quest.
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I like this feature.

ShortWarning said:
Played a few hours and it seems pretty good so far.

I haven't spent any points or anything yet. I've seen a view youtube videos stating how you can completely mess up progression if you get it wrong in the beginning. I'll have to look up some guides before progressing any further.
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Bear in mind that most YouTube videos are aimed at "min maxers" who want to get to 50 as quickly as possible with a spoon fed build. Unless you're wanting to play top level PvP, chase leaderboards etc you can't really go that far wrong. Even if you do, the skill books are not a finite resource. While levelling you'll be given hundreds for free, which will get you going with a build. You can craft more. You also get skill conversion books given to you - these will let you swap the progression on skills. Yes, getting it "wrong" will cost you some time and in game resources to correct, but its not irrecoverable.

I would say its worth spending some time working out which weapons you actually like using before going too far with the skill progression, regardless of what some video says is a good build.

MattHep said:
My build is Greatsword/SNS. I prefer a more in there smashing stuff up kind of charactor than standing on the outskirts. But having seen PVP everyones range, i have no chance of even getting close!

I'm finding it hard to find any usefull build guids as well, not many out there i dont think.
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Both Greatsword and Sword and Shield have access to distance closing skills.
 
SonicSW20 said:
Bear in mind that most YouTube videos are aimed at "min maxers" who want to get to 50 as quickly as possible with a spoon fed build. Unless you're wanting to play top level PvP, chase leaderboards etc you can't really go that far wrong. Even if you do, the skill books are not a finite resource. While levelling you'll be given hundreds for free, which will get you going with a build. You can craft more. You also get skill conversion books given to you - these will let you swap the progression on skills. Yes, getting it "wrong" will cost you some time and in game resources to correct, but its not irrecoverable.

I would say its worth spending some time working out which weapons you actually like using before going too far with the skill progression, regardless of what some video says is a good build.
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Is there a particular level where it's best to have made up your mind?
 
ShortWarning said:
Is there a particular level where it's best to have made up your mind?
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I think you can get a good idea by level 15-20 if you like the weapon combo or not. If you don't like the selection of skills you have access to at those levels I don't think there will be anything that will make you do a 180 on it further down the line.
 
As a huge L2 fanatic back in the day, I'm very interested in this game and having played a bit, it's giving me the exact vibe I'm looking for in a casual MMO.

However... I got to Lv15 or so and have left it there as I'm hearing there is a literal paywall at the end game going from blue gear to purple, requiring the player to pay absurd money to progress. Aka, mobile game mechanics in a PC game...

There is a battlepass which is a 10er per month, as I see it, that's simply a sub with trinkets. Will paying for this 'sub' still result in a paywall at the end game or is it designed to remove said paywall if you're on the BP?

I want to like it, but a lot of things are making me cautious, such as the AH using a paid currency (I've yet to see this in action, I hope it's only for cosmetics, but I fear it's also for materials needed for upgrading), materials being purchasable from the shop, the endless spam to claim rewards which is always a dirty tactic to engage the player into spending cash once that heroine drip ends.

Hopefully this is like SW:TOR - When you don't pay for the 'sub', you are playing the same game in a different economy, when you sub, it's a normal MMO.
 
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agnes said:
As a huge L2 fanatic back in the day, I'm very interested in this game and having played a bit, it's giving me the exact vibe I'm looking for in a casual MMO.

However... I got to Lv15 or so and have left it there as I'm hearing there is a literal paywall at the end game going from blue gear to purple, requiring the player to pay absurd money to progress. Aka, mobile game mechanics in a PC game...

There is a battlepass which is a 10er per month, as I see it, that's simply a sub with trinkets. Will paying for this 'sub' still result in a paywall at the end game or is it designed to remove said paywall if you're on the BP?

I want to like it, but a lot of things are making me cautious, such as the AH using a paid currency (I've yet to see this in action, I hope it's only for cosmetics, but I fear it's also for materials needed for upgrading).
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In what way? Yes there is a gear grind, and yes if you spend enough you can accelerate a lot of it - no surprises in a free to play game these days. I already have my first purple weapon obtained from the weekly missions, and its up to +6 from absorbing my blue weapon into it, and have had a couple bits of purple gear that I'm not going to use. If you run enough dungeons you can eventually craft the weapons if you didn't get the drops. You can also get purple drops from Resistance Contracts.

The AH using Lucent (the paid currency) I am split on, as it does mean you can effectively buy good gear with money. However, it does also mean as a free player if you get that drop and don't want to use and its AH eligible, you can get quite a lot of Lucent and get the passes for "free".

For example this is the greatsword that can drop from the first field boss on the AH:

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Would be great for me if it dropped but if I could get that much Lucent (8300 Lucent is about £120), I'd definitely sell it, not use it.

Most crafting materials are not on the AH. Only the lithographs (blueprints for crafting gear) and extracts (traits you can apply to gear) are the only materials on there.
 
Well I hit 50, in a great guild on a US server and find the experience really good.

There's so much to do, you can compete even with normal gear, also it's quite easy to enhance all your items without worrying about failures.

Very polished with great combat and fluidity. Instances have that good old school feel, not essential but a good group can complete most once mechanics are down.

Regarding loot, the open world dungeons in 'peace' mode drop so much gear including purples for even casual players.

So in all, the games a blast and overall it's a good MMo and worth trying.
 
Im 100 hours into it now, its the first time in a long long time i've ever committed to a game like this. And I'm only now starting to grasp certain concepts of the game. The combat is awful though, really dificult to actually find and lock onto the character you want to attack.

And it helps immesnley if you find an active guild, otherwise i'd imagine it getting very boring in the end game solo.
 
I'm quite enjoying this so far, up to level 23 now. Dungeons are a bit odd so far, just speed runs with no one even talking. Hope that improves as I get higher.
 
CliffyG said:
I'm quite enjoying this so far, up to level 23 now. Dungeons are a bit odd so far, just speed runs with no one even talking. Hope that improves as I get higher.
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That doesn’t change, the dungeons get quicker and quicker the more geared you get. They were quite challenging during the earlier levels, they become easy late game.
 
MattHep said:
That doesn’t change, the dungeons get quicker and quicker the more geared you get. They were quite challenging during the earlier levels, they become easy late game.
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That is disappointing, I prefer the slow paced tactical runs with more jeopardy. It's not much different from the other newer MMOs in that regard, seems to cater for ADHD kids with no social skills. Are the raids any better (are there any?) or is it all geared for PvP at end game?
 
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