Time for an upgrade?

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So I've decided against making the jump to 4k gaming for now, the outlay is just more than I can afford.

Okay so I'm currently rocking a Predator X34 Ultrawide Gsync monitor at 100hz. I have a 3930k running at stock (I don't get overclocking at all) on a Asus x79 Sabertooth motherboard, 16gb's of Samsung Green DDR3 a Palit 1070ti and a 500gb 960 evo.



I've noticed is finally starting to struggle with newer AAA games, Assassins Creed Origins is giving me an average 56fps with high settings, Far Cry 5 I'm getting 57fps, and so on and so on. Origins in particular turns into a slide show when things get busy. I haven't even tried Odyssey yet and I'm thinking this is just a sign of things to come. To be fair the core system is going on 7 years old now.

I want a significant bump in my gaming performance, obtaining that magic 60fps minimum in AAA titles with as much ultra settings as possible. I do intent on getting an ultra wide 144hz monitor in the future though.

I have a total budget of £2k but any savings here would be helpful as I also need to buy a new phone and want a Note 9, I'll hopefully be able to resell my GPU, CPU etc to offset the cost somewhat though.

So guys, what do you think?
 
I'm really not seeing anything in your rig that's especially sub-par. Do you know where you are bottlenecking? Is it the CPU or the GPU? Understand that any game can be cranked to settings that will make almost any GPU cry. The difference in visual quality between the highest level and one step down is often not great, particularly where post-processing is concerned. A simple test is to turn all post-processing - AA, AO, etc - off and note the difference in both frame rate and visual quality.
 
Turning those off actually lowered my results, only by 1 or 2 frames but still. How do I go about determining the bottleneck?
 
I'm struggling to see what's wrong with getting an average of 56fps in a AAA title at high graphics settings... Or am I just showing my age? :confused::D
 
56 would be fine it stayed around that but when it hits 11 and games turn into a slide show it gets pretty annoying.
 
Dont have a second monitor I can use, was looking at msi after burner after doing a little research last night.

My cpu cores are running between roughly 60 and 80% not sure what my gpu was but it wasn't 100%.
 
I'll double check later and put up the results.

Ultimately though I will be wanting to upgrade my cpu, ram and mobo anyway for something more modern.
 
So finally got on my pc to run that GPU and CPU test with msi afterburner while running the Assassins Creed Origins benchmark and GPU is hitting between 96% and 99%. CPU is running between 36% and 77%.

What I've noticed today, without turning the AA etc back on the benchmark was extremely choppy, lowest FPS showed as 1. There's definitely something going on.

@orbitalwalsh sorry to bring you into this pal but you seem to be the go to guy here and haven't given me duff advice yet. Do you think something else is going on or is should I purchase some upgrades? If so what would you recommend?
 
playing assassin's creed origins then that thing eats cores , specially when you walk into a populated area and slay everyone until it calms down a bit .
Seeing as you've got a 6 core CPU , threads shouldn't be an issue there

Stock speed on that CPU is max 3.8ghz , personally would overclock it. That Asus board should have it's iwn auto overclock in the bios. If you've got good cooling use it . Should bump up frame rate gains .
I know you've got an ultra wide 1440p - which personally is best mated to a gtx 1080ti - texture fill rate/ram speed is the plus for large Res monitors with the 1080ti over the 1070ti/80 .
Increase is core speed should see.more gains at the Lowest frame rate and average . Lot of focus from a lot on highest frame rate but it's the lowest that kills your games play and the average is want your most likely gaming through .

Also, clearing your system of **** . Wondering how many background programs you've got running etc .
Have you set power plan to max in windows as well as in Nvidia control panel ( max.performance + single.monitor set up) ?
Small little things etc
 
Thanks @orbitalwalsh

I've got the bios set for performance, can't see any auto overclock functionality unless you're referring to that. I have no idea what I'm doing with overclocking, it just doesn't click with me when I try reading guides etc.

I do have the 280mm be quiet aio paired with high speed silent wings 3's.

I have Windows set to performance and nvidia control panel set to maximum power. I don't seem to have much running in the background, just avg, steam and a vpn that I can see other than the usual. If you can recommend anything to double check that would be great.

Its the lowest frames as you say that's killing it for me, 57 average isn't bad I guess its when it tanks below 15 repeatedly that I get frustrated.

A 1080ti should be easy to get on members market. Anything else you recommend?
 


try running game at 2560x1440p (3.7m pixels) - yes you'll get black bars but should be able to see different in min and max frame rate - would show clearly how your card is performing at the 2 different resolutions and that 3440x 1440p (4.9m pixels) might be a stretch to far


Asus AI Suit II - thats whats used, can be done via software or BIOS
 
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £834.74 (includes shipping: £19.80)
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As per my other thread with the pump on its way out, its spared me to action earlier than intended, I was literally waiting to see what Black Friday deals came up but I'm not risking my system going down. So I've just pulled the trigger on the above!

I've gone with the 360mm AIO this time purely because a replacement 280mm Be Quiet AIO was out of stock, besides another fan and more surface area can't hurt right? Paired with the Silent Wings 3's again and it should be beastly!

Once I get the warranty repair or replacement back it will help off set the cost along with the two now redundant 140mm Silent Wing 3's on the members market.

The 1070ti will also be hitting the members market in the very near future. As I couldn't resist getting that 1080ti with 13% off especially as its got some pretty good reviews and I haven't heard a bad word about Gigabytes customer service. I should have just waited and got one instead of getting the 1070ti as a stop gap card.

May have to wait till December for the rest but I'll hopefully get that 9900k bundle soon and get even more out of my new bits!

@orbitalwalsh and the others who've offered advice, I'm really looking forward to pulling things apart and doing the rebuild :D!!!!!
 
Just a thought but there was another thread recently with similar issues and the problem was that DSR was on.
 
Vidar said:
Just checked and it was already switched off, but thank you I didn't even know about that.
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You need to check it in game and in Nvidia Control Panel, and in NCP you need to check both the Global Settings and the Program settings.
 
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