Time for another upgrade I think.

No one knows what their next card would be and how it would look like. It would be super dull to change the case because you can't fit your next card.

 
no point @lee32uk , @4K8KW10 is a troll and only chooses to post tripe which is not in any way or form helpful to anyone with a question.
he specs to push an agenda rather than to spec the best bang-for-buck for the op, and takes no responsibility whatsoever that it is someone's money that he is wilfully wasting.
100% ignore :)
 
lee32uk said:
Do you even bother to check things before you post them ? That GTX 970 is only 297mm long. You just going to keep on posting pics of triple fan cards until you find one ? :rolleyes:

http://uk.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-N970WF3OC-4GD-rev-10-11#sp
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I know what I posted. You can't understand that there is an issue with fitting the VGAs inside.
I changed exactly two cases because my new cards couldn't fit inside.

So, please be so kind to prove that your compromises are actually worth instead of proper before-purchase decision :rolleyes: :o
 
4K8KW10 said:
I know what I posted. You can't understand that there is an issue with fitting the VGAs inside.
I changed exactly two cases because my new cards couldn't fit inside.

So, please be so kind to prove that your compromises are actually worth instead of proper before-purchase decision :rolleyes: :o
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Maths isn't your strong point ? Try looking at a tape measure and see where 297mm is. Then look where 310mm is. You might notice that 310mm is a larger number.
 
tamzzy said:
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £779.48 (includes shipping: £12.60)
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underbudget, but would be a capable gaming build (get windows elsewhere with the rest of the budget - ocuk prices aren't competitive)
went with a 500gb ssd instead, the size increase would be appreciable :) nvme ssds aren't worth it unless you're constantly trashing the drive (eg for video editing)
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Noticed that you opted for 1600 and not 1600x.

What am I missing going for the 1600 over the 1600x, 1700 or 1700x?

PS thanks for all the advice guys. Think ive just about managed to crack my budget taking a variety of the products suggested so its much appreciated.
 
Chris. said:
Noticed that you opted for 1600 and not 1600x.
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1600x is basically a higher clocked version of the 1600 - but all ryzen processors are unlocked, so you can get the same speeds with a 1600 and 1600x (silicon lottery depending, of course)
not of much use as i've specced in an aio clc watercooler - but the 1600 comes with a stock cooler whereas the 1600x doesnt

Chris. said:
1600 over the 1600x, 1700 or 1700x?
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1700/x has 8c16t, vs 1600/x having 6c12t. for gaming, the 1600/x is sufficient.
if you were doing heavy processor-bound cpu intensive work, then the 1700/x or 1800x would make sense.
for just gaming, then stick with the 1600/x
 
lee32uk said:
Maths isn't your strong point ? Try looking at a tape measure and see where 297mm is. Then look where 310mm is. You might notice that 310mm is a larger number.
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Be gentle Lee, it could be an indication of the thinking-it-is-bigger-than-it-actually-is syndrome.
 
tamzzy said:
1600x is basically a higher clocked version of the 1600 - but all ryzen processors are unlocked, so you can get the same speeds with a 1600 and 1600x (silicon lottery depending, of course)
not of much use as i've specced in an aio clc watercooler - but the 1600 comes with a stock cooler whereas the 1600x doesnt


1700/x has 8c16t, vs 1600/x having 6c12t. for gaming, the 1600/x is sufficient.
if you were doing heavy processor-bound cpu intensive work, then the 1700/x or 1800x would make sense.
for just gaming, then stick with the 1600/x
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So really the 1600x is just a pre clocked version meaning if I’m over clocking anyway there’s no point wasting the extra?

Will I ever miss the 1700/1800 at 4K gaming or is there not enough reliance on the CPU to warrant it?

I suppose if worse comes to worse resale values aren’t bad enough that I couldn’t go 1800 or 1700 a year down the line :)
 
Seeing as its payday I wand to put in my first stage of build order tonight.

Any last minute advice with regards to:

-Nice sub £100 case, suitable for a decent sized (and possibly future x2 of them) GPU, watercooling and naturally an ATX form factor.
-Am i definitely not going to regret getting a 1600 and saving some money?
-Am I going to miss anything more than DDR4 @ 3000 for gaming?
 
Any overclocking is a gamble. The 1600 on average will be only slightly behind a 1600x when overclocked as high as possible.

For memory for Ryzen the current best performing choice is the 8 pack 3200 ram. When I had 2 x 8gb it ran at 3333c14 or 3466c15, this does depend on motherboard and cpu as results can vary but most seem to get 3200c14 or better.
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
Any overclocking is a gamble. The 1600 on average will be only slightly behind a 1600x when overclocked as high as possible.

For memory for Ryzen the current best performing choice is the 8 pack 3200 ram. When I had 2 x 8gb it ran at 3333c14 or 3466c15, this does depend on motherboard and cpu as results can vary but most seem to get 3200c14 or better.
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I’ve opted for these now thanks. Motherboard I’ve gone for the Cheaper ROG strix b350 as it’s in sale and it matches my colour scheme

Just need to make this 1600, 1600x 1700, 1800 decision really. It will mean my build takes longer to finance but hey. If I’m not going to see any benefit though I won’t bkther

Not even considering wasting my money in TR4
 
Chris. said:
I’ve opted for these now thanks. Motherboard I’ve gone for the Cheaper ROG strix b350 as it’s in sale and it matches my colour scheme

Just need to make this 1600, 1600x 1700, 1800 decision really. It will mean my build takes longer to finance but hey. If I’m not going to see any benefit though I won’t bkther

Not even considering wasting my money in TR4
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If you wait the next generation of a Ryzen are out shortly and would be expected to be faster. I chose the 1700 as it was that v a i7-7700k and I was concerned about future proofing seeing as increasingly games etc. need more cores / threads. A 1600 was not available at the time.
 
DarkHorizon472 said:
If you wait the next generation of a Ryzen are out shortly and would be expected to be faster. I chose the 1700 as it was that v a i7-7700k and I was concerned about future proofing seeing as increasingly games etc. need more cores / threads. A 1600 was not available at the time.
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I might do this for two reasons, i can opt for next gen or I can get current gen (hopefully) a bit cheaper.

Thanks for the advice.

Just going to get the case and PSU for now and start putting the cooling in. IM in no rush.
 
Chris. said:
I might do this for two reasons, i can opt for next gen or I can get current gen (hopefully) a bit cheaper.

Thanks for the advice.

Just going to get the case and PSU for now and start putting the cooling in. IM in no rush.
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not sure if you've sene kolink budget TG ATX cases for about £35 quid- same OEM that made Corsair 400c/460x with 4 fans - with or without RGB

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My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £110.68 (includes shipping: £11.70)​
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alpahcool also now produce the slimmest AIO unit with standard 25mm fans, eisbaer LT- can help with cases where AIO/CLC clash with ram being mounted up top or GPU clearance at the front being 50mm thick and much better then similar priced budget CLC units
 
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