Time is bonkers

A quick question about time? who designed the current time system we have? why 60's? seconds, minutes, hours. why 12 months?
 
A quick question about time? who designed the current time system we have? why 60's? seconds, minutes, hours. why 12 months?

The earths spin combined with the light of the sun hitting a long stick stuck in the ground was observed by someone ages ago who came up with the measurements as for who records don't reach that far back!
 
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The fact that it was defined means it was percieved and unless Gilly is not Human(Well he may be a machine we're still uncertain) my perception of said brick will be the same hence if it's been clearly defined it has been percieved previously and therefore will still be red!

Why will your perception be the same as someone else.

You seem to be missing the point that you cannot be sure of anything outside of your mind. The entire Universe including your corporal being may simply be a construct of your own conciousness.

How something is defined by another is meaningless. Your reality is entirely dependent on your perception and that perception is entirely subject to change.
 
Why will your perception be the same as someone else.

Lets see I'm human He's human. Humans process light in the same way. The colour red can only be percieved as such he's seen said object and defined it as being red therefore logically said object has to be red


You seem to be missing the point that you cannot be sure of anything outside of your mind. The entire Universe including your corporal being may simply be a construct of your own conciousness.

How something is defined by another is meaningless.

This I understand what you don't seem to understand is that the question posed was wrong as my, yours or whoevers perception of said object was never called into question as said object was previously defined by what I can only see as a reliable source.
 
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I think potentially the tree falling creating sound (or 'vibrations' in the case that nobody else is around, if you really want to argue on that level of semantics) would be true on the level of classical mechanics, but might the observer effect in quantum mechanics not at least potentially affect the nature of the wave produced? Forgive me if I'm mistaken, my physics is a bit wonky.
 
A red brick is simply a red brick, it's a lump of matter, shaped like a brick, which reflects red light. There's nothing more to it. When you look at it, it's a brick. When you don't, it's the same brick, just a bit more lonely.

A tree falling in a woods makes sound vibrations in the surrounding area. If these are heard, then great, if not, the exact same sound if produced, just nobody is there to hear it. It still exists regardless. If you decide to define sound in a different way (I.e somebody actually hearing it) then no, no sound exists unless somebody hears it. But the sound vibrations do.

That's really all there is to it.
 
I think potentially the tree falling creating sound (or 'vibrations' in the case that nobody else is around, if you really want to argue on that level of semantics) would be true on the level of classical mechanics, but might the observer effect in quantum mechanics not at least potentially affect the nature of the wave produced?

Of course. The observer always affects the result. But not to any significant extent in this case.
 
Lets see I'm human He's human. Humans process light in the same way. The colour red can only be percieved as such he's seen said object and defined it as being red therefore logically said object has to be red

Humans do not perceive things in an identical way. We have already mentioned colour blindness without going into the myriad of abstracts that each of us understand or perceive differently such as God for example, but also does the bricks state remain the same when it is not observed? or is it only a red brick under very specific conditions.
 
A quick question about time? who designed the current time system we have? why 60's? seconds, minutes, hours. why 12 months?

Thanks to documented evidence of the Egyptians' use of sundials, most historians credit them with being the first civilization to divide the day into smaller parts.. As early as 1500 B.C., the Egyptians had developed an advanced sundial. A T-shaped bar placed in the ground, this instrument was calibrated to divide the interval between sunrise and sunset into 12 parts. This division reflected Egypt's use of the duodecimal system--the importance of the number 12 is typically attributed either to the fact that it equals the number of lunar cycles in a year or the number of finger joints on each hand (three in each of the four fingers, excluding the thumb), making it possible to count to 12 with the thumb.

Once both the light and dark hours were divided into 12 parts, the concept of a 24-hour day was in place. The concept of fixed-length hours, however, did not originate until the Hellenistic period, when Greek astronomers began using such a system for their theoretical calculations. Hipparchus, whose work primarily took place between 147 and 127 B.C., proposed dividing the day into 24 equinoctial hours, based on the 12 hours of daylight and 12 hours of darkness observed on equinox days.

Hipparchus and other Greek astronomers employed astronomical techniques that were previously developed by the Babylonians, who resided in Mesopotamia. The Babylonians made astronomical calculations in the sexagesimal (base 60) system they inherited from the Sumerians, who developed it around 2000 B.C. Although it is unknown why 60 was chosen, it is notably convenient for expressing fractions, since 60 is the smallest number divisible by the first six counting numbers as well as by 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30.
 
Humans do not perceive things in an identical way. We have already mentioned colour blindness without going into the myriad of abstracts that each of us understand or perceive differently such as God for example, but also does the bricks state remain the same when it is not observed? or is it only a red brick under very specific conditions.

Of course it does unless some other physical force acts upon it it will stay in the same place with the exact same properties that define it unless our entire knowledge of the physical world is incorrect

The thing is you've failed to note that if the object has previously been defined that it has already been percieved. Say I had said brick showed it to you before I used it in say a wall where it would nonetheless go unseen the brick itself doesn't change nor does our perception of the brick the only way it could would be if our previous perception is incorrect(This is not stated in the question) and said object is redefined.
 
A tree falling in a woods makes sound vibrations in the surrounding area. If these are heard, then great, if not, the exact same sound if produced, just nobody is there to hear it. It still exists regardless. If you decide to define sound in a different way (I.e somebody actually hearing it) then no, no sound exists unless somebody hears it. But the sound vibrations do.

Use a wave generator to produce a wave at 100hz (Very low bass). Now drop it until it is less than 20hz.

You're still producing waves in the air, but you can no longer hear it. It is no longer a sound, because no one is percieving it.

A 'sound' is something explicitly percieved and interpreted by the ear.
 
Use a wave generator to produce a wave at 100hz (Very low bass). Now drop it until it is less than 20hz.

You're still producing waves in the air, but you can no longer hear it. It is no longer a sound, because no one is percieving it.

A 'sound' is something explicitly percieved and interpreted by the ear.

Just because *we" can't hear it, doesn't mean it's not there. Plenty of animals can hear that, and we can easily build a microphone to detect it. A sound it just a specific movement of the medium, being able to hear it is an afterthought.
 
Just because *we" can't hear it, doesn't mean it's not there. Plenty of animals can hear that, and we can easily build a microphone to detect it. A sound it just a specific movement of the medium, being able to hear it is an afterthought.

...but unless we did have a mic set up to observe it, it would be unobservable (without said animal being able to communicate that it had heard it) or at least would go unperceived. Ergo, no sound :)
 
...but unless we did have a mic set up to observe it, it would be unobservable (without said animal being able to communicate that it had heard it) or at least would go unperceived. Ergo, no sound :)

I don't agree though. The sound is there regardless of it it's heard by anything/anyone.
 
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