TN/IPS - Monitor advice needed

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Evening all,

Can anyone explain very simply the difference between TN and IPS pnale monitors?

A quick look around and besides the IPS being considerably more expensive it seems to mainly have better viewing angles (no interest to me at all), but the TN seem to have better colours and contrast.

I am prepared to spend the money for a decent monitor if needed but I don't want to waste ~£350 if all i'm going to get is increased viewing angles but poorer contract/colours.

The monitor will be used for gaming.

Cheers
 
IPS has better colours and viewing angles

contrast is about the same, IPS maybe drops off a bit there though

IMO if this monitor is gaming then hold out for the BenQ X2410 or spend the extra for a U2410
 
Wardie, have a read of this

S-IPS offer perhaps the most accurate colour reproduction available in the TFT panel market, and the widest viewing angles as well. They are also free of the off-centre cotnrast shift which is evident on VA matrices, and as such are commonly the choice of graphics and colour professional displays. Response times were traditionally behind those of TN Film and VA panel variants, but modern IPS panels using response time compensation (RTC) including the new generation of Horizontal IPS (H-IPS), Enhanced S-IPS and Advanced Super IPS (AS-IPS) panels can offer responsiveness to rival both
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Cheers - like I said the viewing angle thing isn't really important to me at all so if there's not going to be much in it to get a high quality TN monitor then I will do that and save £100 or so.

Gaming is definitely the priority for me
 
For me its not about viewing angles, cos I agree, when youre sat in front of your desk its irrelevant, but the actual clour depth and detail is much superior, its hard to explain in words you kinda need to see it, but Ive played for example SC2 on my PC/monitor and seen it on my mates who uses a good TN panel and his looks like the games from a previous generation tbh, the colours look all washed out and there just doesnt seem to be as much detail as things are blurred together
If you have a local PC specialist shop you can maybe swing by and see if you can compare side by side, if not then I suppose theres the old addage of you dont know what youre missing if you havent tried it, and as such a TN panel wont disappoint you because you wont know any different
This is just my personal opinion, and I suppose I do strive for perfection, similarly with sound, mate uses onboard and some 2.1/5.1 logitech stuff I run an asus xonar essence through AudioEngine A5s and again I noticed massive difference in sound quality (to the point where again it makes the same game seem from a previous generation) but others arent able to tell the difference (apparently, I dont see how, must be deaf, lol)
 
It is rather hard to put in words just the difference, but I think 95thrifles put it quite succinctly; it feels a little like the difference between old generation and current generation graphics.

I see a lot of people spend a lot of money on high end GPU options and get the run of the mill TN panel. I own the BenQ of 50 reviews fame and I am happy with it, however I would be lying were I to say that it feels anything like a true IPS.

If high frame rates and response are your only goasl, then by all means a TN panel is for you, probably a 120Hz, though to be fair I have not seen a really good one myself. But if you have other concerns then it is hard to justify spending a whole lot of money on all the other hardware and not invest in a fantastic monitor.
 
lol 95thrifles you remind me of a good friend of mine who is obsessed with audio/visual gadgetry, he literally refuses to watch a film if its not in 7.1 HD sound and full 1080dpi.

Im having enough trouble working a 27" into my budget now reading stuff about IPS ect makes me depressed, no way can i work £300+ into my budget.
 
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-046-DE

Do not have to stretch to 300 pounds to get an excellent IPS. Sure, the 24'' Dell Ultrasharp is better, but for the price it had better be. Now, seeing that you are looking into 27'' monitors it does not seem like you would be too interested in downsizing to 23 inches, but it is worth considering at least.

Do not be depressed though. You can get some cracking TN panels, and as said whether the price jump is really worth it to you depends on the usage.
 
Meh response time stuff is nonsense unless you're some sort of a professional CS player, your average gamer out there won't notice any difference. As for size that's all down to personal circumstances, 23" monitor is actually feeling rather big for me because of my small desk at the moment.
 
Well tbh 23-24" would be ok but i like to lie on my bed and watch stuff on the PC sometimes so bigger would be a bonus. As for the response time i agree with you up to a point but defiantly want it to be under 5ms and im certainly not interested in a monitor to be used primarily for gaming that has 8ms.
 
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lol 95thrifles you remind me of a good friend of mine who is obsessed with audio/visual gadgetry, he literally refuses to watch a film if its not in 7.1 HD sound and full 1080dpi
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With all due respect this sounds exactly like someone who is ignorant of what's going on, I don't mean that in a bad way, but if you've never experienced the difference then this is sort of statement I'd expect
To use the movie analogy, it's a bit like going out and buying the best blu ray player money can buy, and all the latest blu ray titles, then hooking it up to a standard def TV, it might very well be a good standard def TV but it's just not capable of displaying the required detail, by all means buy a good DVD player to hook up, but it's pointless spending the extra on blu ray and not using it
IMO it's pointless spending lots on PC then getting an inferior panel, but that's not to say you should compromise on your PC to get a good monitor, but if your budget allows both then you should try n match qualities
 
Thanks for the replies guys.

I picked up on a comment about response times being higher and gaming, and playing lots of FPS (previously at a high level when I had time) I definitely don't want any ghosting or issues caused by a lower response time?
 
Replace the word "LED-backlit" with "IPS" and have a quick look at the link posted here. If you follow through to the forum link I post there and pay particular attention to the last post there it will be great.
 
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Did you take a look at the review too? We tested FPS games (Bad Company 2 and Dragon Rising) - bear in mind that the ZR24W and U2311H are actually even more responsive (lower input lag) than the U2211H we tested. The only reason I added 'most gaming' in there is because there are some ultra-competitive counterstrike players who will accept nothing less than 120Hz for gaming. If you would like to know about the least fluid experience I've had in FPS gaming terms recently - it was on the Dell ST2320L I recently tested. That is a TN panel. I have also used a number of TN panels rated at 2ms that felt more sluggish than the Dell IPS monitors I tested.
 
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I have played CS at that level in the past so i'm a little nervous about this.

I might look at a high quality TN panel then if that's likely to be best.

Any thoughts anyone?
 
I know the ips hardcore will frown at me for saying this, but I have a 27" iiayma that I use for gaming, bad company 2 mainly at the mo, and its awesome. And cheap, relatively speaking.
 
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