Toad AI606

Fox is right, if your car isnt worth that much you would be better off getting something like a DiskLok instead.. the alarm would just be a noise maker. Id only suggest the Ai606 in your case if you dont already have remote central locking as its not difficult to install at the same time!
 
So, if that's the case, what about buying new wheels/brakes/suspension for the car?

Shouldn't I do that because the wheels will no doubt be worth more than the car?

To you guys, a car might just be a car. To me, it's a hobby.

Phantom, the AI606 will be the difference between someone driving my car away easily or forgetting about it because it's too much hassle for a quick theft. :)
 
Gotta side with Andy one this one, its worth doing imho, it will bring his inurance down, so that could save him 100 / 200 a year so the device will pay for itself, not to mention that if his car gets stolen the excess on his policy won't make it worth claiming for so he would have lost everything.

Mark
 
agw_01 said:
So, if that's the case, what about buying new wheels/brakes/suspension for the car?

Shouldn't I do that because the wheels will no doubt be worth more than the car?

To you guys, a car might just be a car. To me, it's a hobby.

Phantom, the AI606 will be the difference between someone driving my car away easily or forgetting about it because it's too much hassle for a quick theft. :)
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to someone who knows about cars will know yours doesnt have an alarm as standard. yes the Ai606 will have an immobiliser but the disklok is a visual deterrent (its impossible to drive a car away with it on)... i own one :) no one will know you have a 2/3 point immobiliser and alarm fitted as its all hidden from view...

having said that, i also have an Ai606 (just to be on the safe side :D)... if you can afford it, go for it! If you want I can give you a number of a recommended professional & registered fitter who is friendly and could supply & fit the alarm for about £250
 
My car does have an alarm and immobiliser as standard. I think it's CAT2, so I'm guessing that's single point immobilisation.

Don't worry, I'll be getting a steering lock as well. Not going to take any chances with this car :)

Yeah, the number would be excellent, thanks very much. I'm guessing they're based in Southampton?
 
Total waste of money on a low value car. I had the exact same alarm fitted to a £5000 fiesta a number of years ago and was disappointed really. It wasn't a bad alarm, bit tempremental. Fireworks night was a nightmare spent the whole night up turning the bloody alarm off. Sensors can frequently become dislodged which will give false alarms but im sure thats true of any alarm.

An alarm works on the principle that it alerts someone that your car is being stolen/broken into/damaged. I know that if I heard an alarm going off I wouldn't give it a second glance unless I could see someone was breaking into it and there was no risk to my own personal safety. Do you think people will risk getting hurt for a £400 rover? Nope me neither :)
 
agw_01 said:
My car does have an alarm and immobiliser as standard. I think it's CAT2, so I'm guessing that's single point immobilisation.

Don't worry, I'll be getting a steering lock as well. Not going to take any chances with this car :)

Yeah, the number would be excellent, thanks very much. I'm guessing they're based in Southampton?
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nope he (Dennis) is based in milton keynes but travels around. just tell him you know me (baz - who owns the black 2003, honda civic coupe). Give him a ring on 07980 221525 ... he's patient and always takes time to go through things with you. The most you have to lose is the cost of a phone call :)
 
Adam, good point, but it's not just the alarm I'm after. The immobiliser is much much more important to me!

If someone broke into the car and it didn't have an immobiliser, they would rip the alarm out and drive off.

If someone broke into the car and it had the Toad fitted, they would soon get fed up of the alarm blaring and not being able to start the car, and so run off. Anyway, if I was ever woken up by the sound of my alarm going off, I'd be out the front door quicker than you could say "some **** is nicking my car"! :D

Firestar has a good point, the alarm will pretty much pay for itself really. I can't believe people are actually saying it's pointless to have a decent alarm fitted. What would happen if the car got stolen? I'd have to claim, lose my NCB and be back paying stupid insurance.

Phantom, thank you very much, that's really helpful! Will definitely give him a ring in the near future :)
 
Adam said:
Do you think people will risk getting hurt for a £400 rover? Nope me neither :)
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People don't always nick cars to sell, many people are looking for an easy target so they can take it thrash it then burn it out.

Also an alarm acts as a deterrent, fair enough if he gets into your car he is going to smash the window or pop a lock but do you seriously think he is going to continue trying to steal the car when the alarm is going off and he can't turn it off?
 
agw_01 said:
My car does have an alarm and immobiliser as standard. I think it's CAT2, so I'm guessing that's single point immobilisation.
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CAT2 = An immobiliser and no alarm.

If you've got an immob, stick with it. It's a waste of cash spending near 300 quid on a big alarm system, its pointless, it won't help.

If you are itching to spend 300 quid on it why not buy £300 of brake upgrade, or some wheels, or a nice catback exhuast or something?

I'm not saying 'it isnt worth much so you cant spend money improving it' I'm saying spending more than its worth on an alarm system to prevent it getting nicked is stupid. Old cars get nicked lots, but it's by opportunities and joyriders looking for a quick whatever - something a bunch of visual detterants for a fraction of the cost will put off.

FWIW we have an Ai606, it.... well the car hasn't been nicked, but the only reason it was fitted was becuase the insurer insisted on it.
 
That's a fair point Fox, and I apologise if I sounded snappy before.

I thought that CAT2 = immobilised at a single point, and CAT1 was mult-point immobilisation.

The standard Rover immob is pretty pants. You wouldn't believe how easy it is to disable if you don't have the horns blaring. I'm going to move the horns from the bumper anyway but still don't trust the Rover immobiliser. I also want motion sensors to stop scrotes from smashing a window and pinching my HU or something.

Of the Rover Turbo's that've been stolen recently, I know two of them have been found with all the running gear gone and one that hasn't been seen since. It had a 214 badge on the back and they still nicked it. That was from outside the guys' house in the daytime... doesn't sound like opportunist thieves does it :)

I can understand what you're saying, but I'd really rather not risk it with the standard Rover system.

Thanks anyway Fox :)
 
I think the Toad is a good alarm.....you can also whack a tilt/motion/shock sensor/closure a lot a tat if you wish.

The main reason for alarms going off for no reason is the way they are installed. If you use scotchlocks or similar you are asking for trouble. By far the best technique is soldering every joint and insulating or heatshrinking...then I would go for crimping as a close second.
 
andy, buy and fit the toad and take no notice of the others who seem agasint the idea of you wanting to feel secure about the security of the gsi.

second, rover immobs/alarms (on 200/400 and possiblly rest of range) never got a thatcham catergory rating till the mk2 zr's etc came in.

mine cost £230 pro fitted but like a dunce, ive lost the certificate so has no insurance use anymore. DOH!!
 
Simon said:
Get anything better than the Rover ones.

YOu could nick a Rover in seconds if you wanted.
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Dont tell him how or yours might dissapear. ;)

I would imagine you would have a aftermarket alarm/imob on though.
 
lol, I don't think Si is that stupid :p

You've got a Toad haven't you Si?

There was once a time when Rovers didn't need immobilisers. Nobody wanted to be seen dead in them.
 
agw_01 said:
lol, I don't think Si is that stupid :p

You've got a Toad haven't you Si?

There was once a time when Rovers didn't need immobilisers. Nobody wanted to be seen dead in them.
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Whats changed? :p

Im only messing. :D
 
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