Soldato
This the American paradox, they are apathetic to almost everything and yet it's claimed they need guns to raise up against a tyrannical US government, most of them wouldn't even rise up off the sofa.
Today's mass shooting in the US
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This the American paradox, they are apathetic to almost everything and yet it's claimed they need guns to raise up against a tyrannical US government, most of them wouldn't even rise up off the sofa.
Caporegime
When I was a kid, our family owned guns, and my father taught me how to shoot. If it wasn't for the fact that my wife doesn't feel comfortable with them in the house, I would own a gun today. I have no problem with gun ownership per se.
It's not true that 'there's nothing wrong with how it is.' American gun laws are hopelessly weak and inconsistent across different states, which is why so many guns are purchased legally in states with weak laws, and taken across the border to states with tighter laws. In Chicago, just 10 gun stores sell ~25% of all firearms used in local gun crime. These are legal guns, used to commit illegal acts.
When it comes to mass shootings, the evidence is overwhelming: 'More Than 80 Percent of Guns Used in Mass Shootings Obtained Legally.'
They also forget that the last time Americans tried to overthrow their government... the government won.
What?
There is no comparison at all between owning guns and playing video games.
You can't, for whatever reason it is that sparks people to commit mass murder, suddenly get up from your sofa/desk and take your virtual gun out of the computer, take to the streets and kill people.
You can be using a real gun for an innocent hobby, lose your mind, leave the field / range you're in and within minutes be taking out innocents. It happens, every single day in America.
Soldato
I don't understand American's obsession with their Constitution, how it's set it stone, and can't be changed. But their has been 27 amendments to it over the years, so why does something being in there guarantee that for ever?
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No but mentality of games is "killing things" - violent games promote violence and should be banned. You should only play My Little Pony games, to avoid anyone linking games to murder.
and the kid may get a hammer
And you could suddenly have the urge to use your car as a weapon.
Or a knife, or a brick, or a rope, or a aeroplane.
Yes, but you're talking hypothetically, those things could happen, but generally they don't.
On the other hand mass shootings happen, depending on your definition, at least once a day in America on average.
I'm not advocating banning guns over there, just controlling them better. I think we've got it about right in the UK for example.
A good friend of mine recently got into shotguns and now spends most of his time killing birds or clays and I know how many hoops he had to jump through to get his gun license. He didn't just walk into his local shop or go on Gumtree and buy a bloody assault rifle.
On the other hand mass shootings happen, depending on your definition, at least once a day in America on average.
I'm not advocating banning guns over there, just controlling them better. I think we've got it about right in the UK for example.
A good friend of mine recently got into shotguns and now spends most of his time killing birds or clays and I know how many hoops he had to jump through to get his gun license. He didn't just walk into his local shop or go on Gumtree and buy a bloody assault rifle.
The quote from Trump about more guns being the answer because he was eventually shot....
26 people dead, but it's ok because we shot the guy too.
No, just don't have 26 people shot in the first place then there's no need to shoot him too.
Caporegime
Just follow the money:
Caporegime
If a mass shooting of God loving American people, including a bunch of Kids, and a mother with unborn child cant change Americas gun lawas then NOTHING will.... EVER.
THe country will shoot itself to shreads when they become less relevant over the next 50 years.
THe country will shoot itself to shreads when they become less relevant over the next 50 years.
Just follow the money:
the real power is it's ability to mobilise/influence its millions of members who are typically very politically active and will call/write to their representatives and will vote based on gun issues
Soldato
I've often imagined America becoming much like a cross between Mad Max and Fallout within my lifetime
Soldato
I was thinking more 'Borderlands' and 'Supersize Me'. On second thought, we are pretty much there 
Yet they don't give a flying hoot about their privacy, unlawful seizure and surveillance or the right to a trial (if you get labelled an enemy combatant/terrorist).
Caporegime
Isn't that what they say about how these shouldn't be publicised as "the worst shooting in 10 years", or whatever. It gives people a target to aim for (pun intended).Columbine has dropped out of the top 10 worst mass shootings in modern day America. Three of the worst five have taken place in the last 18 months.
Soldato
We have in the past used such phrases to highlight the problems with laws and regulations. So long as the people are calling for change, it serves to push the issue of change but i suppose with the public refusing to change their view towards guns, it just creates a ranking/top score for these maniacs
Caporegime
Pretty much the plot of The Frighteners there.
Just follow the money:
It's not really that much is it?
Imagine if all the "churches" and lunatic evangalists in America spent some money on trying to improve the country instead of being self serving shills.