Tomb Raider I - III remaster

niggyg · 15 Sep 2023 at 07:23

Tomb Raider I-III Remastered Starring Lara Croft on Steam

Play the original three Tomb Raider adventures with all expansions and secret levels in this definitive collection.

store.steampowered.com

Feb 14th release which is classic Laras birthday!

I'm wondering if they will rework the original tank controls as anyone new to it that picks it up might not last long with it.

Also FMVs, I wonder how/if they will rework these. Probably just AI upscales but hopefully they have the source access and can do more.

hdpcgamer · 15 Sep 2023 at 07:47

Keeping the graphics style is fine but I do think they'll revise the controls so it plays like the modern versions.

Fubsy · 15 Sep 2023 at 07:50

Meh, what's wrong with what we have?

Probably want some Steam Deck verification and all the modern bells and whistles with Steam achievements and trading cards (woo).

Zefan · 15 Sep 2023 at 10:02

Hmm, changing the controls is extremely dangerous territory. The entire game is built around them, levels won't work in the same way with a different control set. I'd be surprised if they did that without reworking the level design or how the environment reacts to your movement.

I really think it'll be simply a roll up of all expansions with a graphics toggle.

apatia77 · 15 Sep 2023 at 11:22

Oh the nostalgia. I will defo try to play those again but I am sure the experience is not going to be what I remember.

hdpcgamer · 15 Sep 2023 at 12:02

Zefan said:
Hmm, changing the controls is extremely dangerous territory. The entire game is built around them, levels won't work in the same way with a different control set. I'd be surprised if they did that without reworking the level design or how the environment reacts to your movement.

I really think it'll be simply a roll up of all expansions with a graphics toggle.

You may be right regarding the controls. I have played the game in decades so don't know how well they have aged.

niggyg · 15 Sep 2023 at 12:03

Zefan said:
Hmm, changing the controls is extremely dangerous territory. The entire game is built around them, levels won't work in the same way with a different control set. I'd be surprised if they did that without reworking the level design or how the environment reacts to your movement.

I really think it'll be simply a roll up of all expansions with a graphics toggle.

Yeah, those were my thoughts. Im not sure how you change the tank controls as its tied to the grid system of the levels.

I'll be grabbing this though.

ShiWarrior · 15 Sep 2023 at 12:52

Finally a remaster
I did play the 1st one, never did complete it though

Zefan · 15 Sep 2023 at 13:34

ShiWarrior said:
Finally a remaster
I did play the 1st one, never did complete it though

Oh it's so worth it. It gets pretty bonkers towards the end :cool:

SkeeterUK · 15 Sep 2023 at 15:25

older games look better imo than the new versions when comparing the details.

Kelt · 15 Sep 2023 at 15:27

Don't suppose there's a snowballs chance in hell these will support ultrawide.

Karathez · 15 Sep 2023 at 15:29

How is it remastered if its original graphics? isnt the point of remasters to make the game look better? I must be missing something here, but it sounds more rerelease than remaster.

Dont get me wrong, loved the originals back in the ps1 days

ShiWarrior · 15 Sep 2023 at 16:28

Karathez said:
How is it remastered if its original graphics? isnt the point of remasters to make the game look better? I must be missing something here, but it sounds more rerelease than remaster.

Dont get me wrong, loved the originals back in the ps1 days

Lovingly Restored: Experience the classics boasting upgraded graphics, with the option to switch to the original polygon look at any time.

dazza13 · 15 Sep 2023 at 16:46

Yes please loved the orginals, spent many an hour crawling back and forth in tunnels.

Blackjack Davy · 15 Sep 2023 at 16:51

Looking at the screenshots they've just tweaked some of the lighting and graphics. They can't really do much more without rewriting the entire thing which is fine they're classics and should stay that way

Oh I see looking at the TR1 shots they've added a hi poly model for Lara she also famously didn't have a working ponytail for one they couldn't get teh physics working right

Zefan · 15 Sep 2023 at 18:32

SkeeterUK said:
older games look better imo than the new versions when comparing the details.

Yes but actually no... There's zero way you can argue the fidelity isn't completely night and day, but I suppose it depends how you define "better". It does look quite jarring, the grid system means levels are blocky by their nature and the pixellated/per block lighting nature sort of worked with it. High red textures plus good lighting sort of creeps me out when combined with blocks like that. I think it loses some of the character for sure.

niggyg · 15 Sep 2023 at 19:30

Kelt said:
Don't suppose there's a snowballs chance in hell these will support ultrawide.

I think it might, there have been hacks to alter the aspect ratio to 16:9, not sure if 21:9 has been done but I think these remakes will.

VincentHanna · 16 Sep 2023 at 14:22

Karathez said:
How is it remastered if its original graphics? isnt the point of remasters to make the game look better? I must be missing something here, but it sounds more rerelease than remaster.

Dont get me wrong, loved the originals back in the ps1 days

Thread title is confusing, since it's not a remake at all.

Remasters jazz up existing code and are usually (not always) a bit "meh"

Remakes are generally the better option.

niggyg · 16 Sep 2023 at 15:25

VincentHanna said:
Thread title is confusing, since it's not a remake at all.

Remasters jazz up existing code and are usually (not always) a bit "meh"

Remakes are generally the better option.

Yeah, it's a re-master rather than a remake. I've edited the title.

SpudMaster · 16 Sep 2023 at 16:28

It's defiantely a remaster rather than a remake but in all honestly I think that's what I would prefer. Tomb Raider Anniversary was a remake of the first Tomb Raider wasn't it?