TomTom Released For the Iphone

Does the GPS use data downloading at any point? As I can imagine this being quite expensive when going abroad and having to use data roaming to get GPS information.
 
Hang on, are you saying that while on a phonecall, you can't see the sat-nav anymore?

surely the call will just shrink to the top bar as if you press the home button while in a call?

No, when you get a call the app closes.

However, TomTom are saying that the app auto-relaunches after the call, but still.. it's a bit pointless if you've missed that vital turn and are now heading down a ringroad. As for SMS.. I imagine that annoying pop-up will obscure the app until you press "Close" or "Reply" too :o

Does the GPS use data downloading at any point? As I can imagine this being quite expensive when going abroad and having to use data roaming to get GPS information.

Well the iPhone uses A-GPS (assisted GPS), so it would use a small amount of data.. however, with the maps being loaded on to the phone and the cradle using it's own GPS then I'm not so sure it would.

I'd ask TomTom before purchasing if you intend on using it abroad for long periods.
 
It can get a GPS lock without using any data at all if required, A-GPS is an extension to GPS that makes it quicker to lock on.

I'm waiting to see what the cradle appears at before buying, my standalone TomTom has had it so this could be a nice replacement.
 
Does the tomtom cradle make any difference vs existing aftermarket cradles? It's not like it adds anything to functionality of the iphone? If the past experience with PDA market is anything to go by tomtom cradle will most likely not accommodate any custom cases most of you tuck your iphone into as well...
 
Just because I have to put this up for comparison:

One N95 8GB - Free on Contract
Nokia Maps Application - Free
Latest Maps - Free (You can preload maps onto the device for EVERY country, if you so wish)
Turn-By-Turn Navigation* - 1 Day: £1.50, 30 Days: £6.00, 1 Year: £52.99
Multitasking to make it vaguely useful - N95 8GB can do it. So you can talk (handsfree!) while navigating etc.


*The maps application is entirely free and it locates you, but to get it to do actual satellite navigation you have to pay for a license (at the above rates).


Hopefully you now understand why i'm smirking to myself at the thought of people using this App...

Saying that if they update the App with the latest maps so everyone who's bought it will have the latest maps (doesn't say if you get them if you've already bought it - just you get the latest at time of purchase) then that does add some value.
 
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Knowing TomTom you'l get the latest maps when you purchase it, and then you'll pay out a monthly fee for Live Traffic and map updates.

That's probably the one thing I hate most about them.. they charge for continual updates at ridiculous prices.
 
Apparently it will have some sort of GPS chip built into the stand and a speaker to make the GPS lock and the sound better.

Are you sure guys? I'm slightly surprised, does the iphone even have serial port stack to connect to third party GPS devices through its connector? It would make very little sense for a device with already built in GPS as well...
 
Are you sure guys? I'm slightly surprised, does the iphone even have serial port stack to connect to third party GPS devices through its connector? It would make very little sense for a device with already built in GPS as well...

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/08/tomtom/

Have a look at the article here. The GPS on the iphone isnt the best so probably a good thing. It means people who have iTouch's can buy the app too as well.

I think I'm going to buy the CoPilot app. Reviews seem good and price is much better than the TomTom.
 
Are you sure guys? I'm slightly surprised, does the iphone even have serial port stack to connect to third party GPS devices through its connector? It would make very little sense for a device with already built in GPS as well...

iPhone OS 3.0 pretty much opened up the Dock Connector for any use by an application. See some of the keynotes for other examples :)
 
Are you sure guys? I'm slightly surprised, does the iphone even have serial port stack to connect to third party GPS devices through its connector? It would make very little sense for a device with already built in GPS as well...

Positive. Tom Tom themselves stated this at the iPhone 3GS launch event, or was it the 3.0 revealing event, I forget.

It's possible as apple have opened up the dock connector to be programmable, so you can now make your own accessories/adapaters that plug into the iphone and communicate with the software running.

The reason for the speaker and the extra gps chip is that a) the speaker is pretty quiet on the iphone and b) phone gps' in general don't tend to have as strong signal, due to the smaller antenna. With the dock they're just making sure that you get the optimal experience. It is however, completely optional and the software functions just fine with out.

Regarding phone calling, surely like any other app, when recieving a phone call you can hit the home button and re-launch the tom-tom app (before the phone call ends), therefore running both at the same time?
 
Regarding phone calling, surely like any other app, when recieving a phone call you can hit the home button and re-launch the tom-tom app (before the phone call ends), therefore running both at the same time?

Operating a mobile in a vehicle when the engine is running is against UK law ;)

However, to add.. I've just read that the voice directions remain whilst you are in-call, but the app closes (but auto re-opens after the call ends). Not sure how confusing that would be.. some people barely seem able to read road signs, never mind chat on a hands-free and listen to voice commands.

Don't forget the cradle also charges the iPhone.
 
I'm on the fence and may wait for a while longer to see if any updates fix the reported issues I see on the feedback pages...

Also it's cheap but still not cheap enough for me.... Copilot is looking good though..
 
Just because I have to put this up for comparison:

One N95 8GB - Free on Contract
Nokia Maps Application - Free
Latest Maps - Free (You can preload maps onto the device for EVERY country, if you so wish)
Turn-By-Turn Navigation* - 1 Day: £1.50, 30 Days: £6.00, 1 Year: £52.99
Multitasking to make it vaguely useful - N95 8GB can do it. So you can talk (handsfree!) while navigating etc.


*The maps application is entirely free and it locates you, but to get it to do actual satellite navigation you have to pay for a license (at the above rates).


Hopefully you now understand why i'm smirking to myself at the thought of people using this App...

Saying that if they update the App with the latest maps so everyone who's bought it will have the latest maps (doesn't say if you get them if you've already bought it - just you get the latest at time of purchase) then that does add some value.

Wonderful. But the big problem is that you're stuck with an N95 :D

What else did you expect in the apple forum!

Back on topic, I used Copilot on my old O2 Orbit, and it was good. Not as good as tomtom, but very good for £25.
 
I gotta say, I was really looking forward to this and had in my head that as long as the whole setup (with the cradle) was not a long way off £100 I would get it...

however, I talk to people on hands free a lot in the car and the fact that the app switches off means there is no way i'd consider this i'm afraid... how daft of apple! I'm sure the iPhone is more than capable of running multiple apps!
 
Wonderful. But the big problem is that you're stuck with an N95 :D

What else did you expect in the apple forum!

N95 8GB ;) They doubled the RAM and it makes a big difference. Besides at the time it was that or the original iPhone, and the original iPhone was atrociously bad. The N95 8GB in terms of the 3GS is probably on par feature-wise (some same, some better, some worse).

I would at least expect the Apple forum to realise they're getting shafted by a sub-standard product that is in part due to Apple's inability to let people multitask or have user access to a file system. Why do I care? Because I like the iPhone, really like the iPhone and what it is potentially capable of. The hardware surpasses my phone, the UI surpasses my phone but the fact remains that Apple cripple the OS in multiple ways just to suit Apple. It's shocking my 2 year old phone can multitask yet the iPhone can't. If Apple stopped making such weird choices they would have many happy developers (sort out the App Store approval) and more sales (me!).

Yes, a mini-slightly-off-topic rant. I just want them to get their act together. So I can buy one :D
 
How to resume navigation while in a call:

I’ve had a few people ask how I was able to take a call and resume navigation. While the instructions are in the review, I’ll expand here.

You are navigating and a call comes in with the accept/deny buttons. Accept the call (1 tap). Now click on the home button below the display… the physical round button (2nd tap). This takes you back to your ‘home’ screen, tap on the TomTom app icon (3rd tap, assuming it is on page 1) and your call continues while you are navigating.

From the review here.
 
N95 8GB ;) They doubled the RAM and it makes a big difference. Besides at the time it was that or the original iPhone, and the original iPhone was atrociously bad. The N95 8GB in terms of the 3GS is probably on par feature-wise (some same, some better, some worse).

I would at least expect the Apple forum to realise they're getting shafted by a sub-standard product that is in part due to Apple's inability to let people multitask or have user access to a file system. Why do I care? Because I like the iPhone, really like the iPhone and what it is potentially capable of. The hardware surpasses my phone, the UI surpasses my phone but the fact remains that Apple cripple the OS in multiple ways just to suit Apple. It's shocking my 2 year old phone can multitask yet the iPhone can't. If Apple stopped making such weird choices they would have many happy developers (sort out the App Store approval) and more sales (me!).

Yes, a mini-slightly-off-topic rant. I just want them to get their act together. So I can buy one :D

I have an N95 8gb and just got a 3GS and I have to say there is really no comparison between the two, the iPhone is far superior in every department except the camera and to be honest, the camera is perfectly adequate for adhoc snaps. Back to the mobile phone forum for you :p
 
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