Total noob in need of help, at this fine hour

Joe42 · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:20

rich99million said:
That's what happens when you get told not to go into the advanced options and set -advmethods to on

Well i'm getting an even mix of good'uns and bad'uns with advmethods on. I thought we would be best coming to that later otherwise we'd never get it set up in the first place.

Joe42 - in my office please!

*scarpers off*

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:20

Poo I just closed the console with the 'x'

. Does this mean that the whole WU will be ruined?.

Mattus · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:22

benneh said:
Poo I just closed the console with the 'x' . Does this mean that the whole WU will be ruined?.

Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't - it's a bit of a lottery. Only way to find out is to start the client back up and see what it says!

If the WU is dead, it'll probably just start it again from the beginning, which isn't too bad as you were only a few percent in.

rich99million · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:24

benneh said:
Poo I just closed the console with the 'x' . Does this mean that the whole WU will be ruined?.

only one way to find out really - start it running and see if it starts at 0 again
if you think you'll be doing that a lot by accident you can set it up as a service and just manually start/stop the service (I won't go into that just now unless you decide you'd want to - it's pretty simple though

)

as for -advmethods I would recommend it at the moment, though your current WU will take a few days to complete so no rush

edit: it's a lot to take in all at once - you're doing good though so, as the book says, DON'T PANIC!

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:39

Think i'm motoring now. It did reset to 0% by the look of it. Fahmon isn't giving me any FAHlog info or any Benchmarks but I presume that's because I need to get my first WU under my belt. No ETA (N/A). But i'm on 1% and that makes for a happy benneh (or rather.. benneh (10)

).

Thanks lots guys. Folding for the team feels good.

Mattus · 22 Dec 2006 at 22:58

benneh said:
Think i'm motoring now. It did reset to 0% by the look of it. Fahmon isn't giving me any FAHlog info or any Benchmarks but I presume that's because I need to get my first WU under my belt. No ETA (N/A). But i'm on 1% and that makes for a happy benneh (or rather.. benneh (10) ).

Thanks lots guys. Folding for the team feels good.

No log info? Have you turned the log display on in the menu?

Think this thread illustrates how good the Folding community here has got - about 4 people scrabbling to answer the same question the fastest

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:11

Mattus said:
No log info? Have you turned the log display on in the menu?

Think this thread illustrates how good the Folding community here has got - about 4 people scrabbling to answer the same question the fastest

It's working now dude. Think it needed to complete a little bit before it would show any info.

And..... 2% WOOT

I have another question.

I have parents/friends who all have PC's that are pretty much on 24/7 and hardly used. If I install the console client as instructed in the sticky on all of these computers (with permission of course) and simple enter 'benneh' 'team 10' will the WUs all be accredited to me?. This is the only way I can see myself doing any good in the competitive stakes.

Mattus · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:16

benneh said:
If I install the console client as instructed in the sticky on all of these computers (with permission of course) and simple enter 'benneh' 'team 10' will the WUs all be accredited to me?

Yes.

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:23

Mattus said:
Yes.

Excellent. Then I stand a slight chance of doing OK

.

Joe42 · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:24

benneh said:
I have another question.

I have parents/friends who all have PC's that are pretty much on 24/7 and hardly used. If I install the console client as instructed in the sticky on all of these computers (with permission of course) and simple enter 'benneh' 'team 10' will the WUs all be accredited to me?. This is the only way I can see myself doing any good in the competitive stakes.

Yes yes yes.

And you can install it as a service this time.

Do as i said in my first post, but say yes to advanced options. They are all fairly obvious, but say yes to advmethods.

How do you enable -forceasm when running as a service? Do you just have to run it from a shortcut with -forceasm in the path when you first run it?

You can monitor other clients on networked pcs using fahmon, but you have to have the folder that folding is in on the networked pcs shared, or the drive. Then you just add a client to fahmon and point it to that network folder.

benneh said:
Excellent. Then I stand a slight chance of doing OK .

There'll always be somebody with a slower machine that you, we don't all fold on farms of core 2s. Mores the pity.

rich99million · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:28

Joe42 said:
How do you enable -forceasm when running as a service? Do you just have to run it from a shortcut with -forceasm in the path when you first run it?

To use -forceasm when set as a service you have to do the registry edits
Generally speaking you won't need -forceasm but it only takes one dodgy shutdown and not checking the client for a while and you can lose days of decent production

SiriusB · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:28

No need to worry about being competitive yet - you have about 2 pages of slackers to get through first

Seriously though don't concern yourself too much about low output. I am on 1.1K PPD [points per day] and that is pretty good going. When I started I was only doing about 250-300PPD.

Careful with borging too, once you see your output increase the Foldy bug might get hold of you and you could end up like Bigstan or some of the others who have several machines in their house JUST for folding. Crazy people and their wealth

SiriusB

Joe42 · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:31

rich99million said:
To use -forceasm when set as a service you have to do the registry edits
Generally speaking you won't need -forceasm but it only takes one dodgy shutdown and not checking the client for a while and you can lose days of decent production

I've never used -forceasm on any of my 8 clients and never noticed a slowdown. Would i be right in saying its not worth the hassle for someone who's a beginner or lazy like me?

rich99million · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:38

Joe42 said:
I've never used -forceasm on any of my 8 clients and never noticed a slowdown. Would i be right in saying its not worth the hassle for someone who's a beginner or lazy like me?

If you're too lazy to find the following key...

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\FAH@C:+Program Files+Folding@Home+........

then double-click on Image Path and add -forceasm after the -svcstart

...then I guess it's not worth the hassle

If you ever do have a messy shutdown and notice it's running on standard loops all you have to do is restart the service and it should start using the optimisations again

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:42

Hehe, i'm not going OTT

, couldn't afford to if I wanted to unfortunately. I just got to thinking, my own PC is unused but remains on most of the time, and I know of at least 5 others belonging to close friends and family, and it wouldn't hurt my ranking to put a copy on all the machines as a service, walk away and forget about it. So I might aswell. If only I could borg all of the computers that I see being regularly unused....

Joe42 · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:43

Well i think the reason i've never bothered with it is i never put it in the quick guide, and the reason i didn't put it in the quick guide is every extra line that goes into it makes one more potential folder think 'nahh, too much bother' and press the back button.
I mean theres nothing like registry hacks to turn away potential folders, particularly when you have to put in that little disclaimer 'if you do something stupid your computer will die'. Its kinda off-putting.

Unless it causes me any problems i can't really be bothered to go and do that for all 5 machines, i'll probably add it when i'm next doing something else, just in case.

SiriusB · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:50

Yeah the quick guide simply needs to be that. All the nitty gritty stuff should stay in the Ultimate Guide on F@H.

To be honest I never link people to the guides or stickies on here... last time I did that a friend got horribly lost and I had to write my own quick guide for them.

SiriusB

benneh · 22 Dec 2006 at 23:53

I think the quick guide's great. Technically I understood everything that is said, just wasn't sure at all about the f@h proggy. Thumbs up for the guides tbh.

Joe42 · 23 Dec 2006 at 00:24

benneh said:
I think the quick guide's great. Technically I understood everything that is said, just wasn't sure at all about the f@h proggy. Thumbs up for the guides tbh.

Thanks.

The problem is the quick guide assumes you want to run it as a service, because anything else requires a good deal more faffing around which would make the quick guide a lot less quick.

If the quick guide doesn't cover what you want to do or know you should read the advanced guide, or post in the forum, or both which you did. As you can see we'll fall over ourselves to help a new folder on board.

SiriusB · 23 Dec 2006 at 00:51

It should be noted we do quite a bit more trying to keep people on board too

SiriusB