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Total Speculation: 16 core ryzen (3xxx) announced with a newer mac pro ?
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If you think that the companies, institutions, and a very small number of individuals who buy these are looking any further than the Apple logo, you're mistaken.
I hear you - it is just that at that price, they could have actually had something absolutely kick ass.
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Seems I somewhat underestimated the CPU's they would put in it ... and the price ! ouch .
What outstanding value...
The question here id, does it grate cheese?
Year 2019, this is a joke even by Apple standards.
256GB SSD at $6000 price tag?
And I bet it would be barely cooled, so it will be heavy throttling all the time.
Hell, I can build a far superior PC by doing exuberant things like buying the X570 Aqua, the 3900X, and 4 M.2 NVME raid drive. And still I will be at 1/3 of the cost.
256GB SSD at $6000 price tag?
And I bet it would be barely cooled, so it will be heavy throttling all the time.
Hell, I can build a far superior PC by doing exuberant things like buying the X570 Aqua, the 3900X, and 4 M.2 NVME raid drive. And still I will be at 1/3 of the cost.
and the "pro's" will still buy throwing money at apple and all the youtube lemons are shilling hard pushing them already. hell even looked in the thread on here and some of the replies really are worrying.
$6k 8 core model or 3 threadripper models, hmmmmm what to do.
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Dont even need TR, I'd expect Zen 2 12c24t will slap this around merrily.
cpu wise yeah but its more the memory and storage side id expect where you would need threadripper boards to match up to the xeon boards. although im sure some x570;s will come close.
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Zen 2 with the new PCIe4 storage devices would still slap this around.
no doubt, will be interesting to see when someone does a side by side and see what $6k actually gets you compared to the cheese grater performance wise, and then to see the "professionals" scramble to justify it
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no doubt, will be interesting to see when someone does a side by side and see what $6k actually gets you compared to the cheese grater performance wise, and then to see the "professionals" scramble to justify it
I have no doubt you are right but have no idea how you could ever hope to justify $1000 for a bloody stand.
To be fair to apple, you will get a fantastic chassis for the money if it's anywhere near like my Alu 2010 Mac Pro. That chassis is still the best I've ever seen, and I built a lot of PCs in my time!
However yeah, the prices are silly. especially since you consider the base model only has 32GB; ECC DDR4 is $$$$$ money so the price of a fully specced box is going to be amazing!
That was the problem with the old mac pro as well, "special" DIMMS of ECC costs like 10 times the price of normal ram.
However yeah, the prices are silly. especially since you consider the base model only has 32GB; ECC DDR4 is $$$$$ money so the price of a fully specced box is going to be amazing!
That was the problem with the old mac pro as well, "special" DIMMS of ECC costs like 10 times the price of normal ram.To be fair to apple, you will get a fantastic chassis for the money if it's anywhere near like my Alu 2010 Mac Pro. That chassis is still the best I've ever seen, and I built a lot of PCs in my time!
However yeah, the prices are silly. especially since you consider the base model only has 32GB; ECC DDR4 is $$$$$ money so the price of a fully specced box is going to be amazing!
Fantastic chassis at a massive premium, almost negates the consideration of the quality of the chassis.
ITT: a lack of understanding of the market for this computer, its operating system and use case.
If it makes you happy to build a Ryzen / TR system, go for it! I'm sure apple will sell very little base models of this machine, in fact, it'll be large studios going for fully specced out versions making much of their market. Including a rackmount version for rendering farms.
If it makes you happy to build a Ryzen / TR system, go for it! I'm sure apple will sell very little base models of this machine, in fact, it'll be large studios going for fully specced out versions making much of their market. Including a rackmount version for rendering farms.
£1000 monitor stand lol. Makes the 2080Ti look like good value.
I honestly don't know what is going on in the tech industry. is inflation suddenly at 80% or something? Did everyone suddenly get a 50% pay rise that I missed? It's a madness.
I honestly don't know what is going on in the tech industry. is inflation suddenly at 80% or something? Did everyone suddenly get a 50% pay rise that I missed? It's a madness.
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Does this make any sense for rendering farms? Its extremely expensive and not amazing density. What would it do in the setting that cheaper conventional hardware doesn't already do? You're not going to need expansion modules just CPU/GPU/RAM in that setting, the OS is largely irrelevant too.
Dual CPU Xeon or Epyc will have much higher density, take more RAM and have greater expansion in a custom chassis if GPU compute is required.
I can only imagine this the Mac Pro fits in a workstation setting for content creators.
And as a media professional of 20 years I can tell you it's only fashionistas, the superficial and the ill-informed who demand Macs for pro work. I have been outright shunned and laughed at throughout the industry and education for being PC based because "only professionals use Macs", right up until my portable ITX rig (read: travelling edit suite) with a GTX Titan in it absolutely crushed everything they had. But they still just buy the Apple logo because it's snobbery and ingrained into them. Anybody who wants the best machine to get their work done will consider Apple of course, but will look around at Dell and HP workstations as well (and the more tech savvy will also look to boutique builders for more options).
There is no render farm that I can think of that would use Macs either; render farms are predominantly a CGI thing and Macs aren't known to be used for 3D animation. And film & video doesn't need render farms.
this 100 times over, watching the youtube tech experts get all hot and sweaty over the mac pro's return is just idiotic. but everyone of them uses the same terms about it being a pro tool, yeah a pro tool made for and sold to tools.
sorry to anyone buying one but honestly show me why a mac pro is better than a normal pc for double the money, why is it worth that price tag ? especially much like the ryzen 3000 stuff we have no 3rd party reviews of it yet so dont go spouting apples own claims about performance especially with the design of the cpu and gpu being passive cooled, the only way that thing is passive is them front fans move so much air it sounds like a industrial air con unit.