Toxic farmed fish ?

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It's a long video but worth the watch, not sure on the validity of it all but it does reason that if we're putting all these chemicals into the fish, chemicals where to spray require protective clothing and masks, then surely some of those chemicals will be inside the fish we consume ?

Certainly has put me off eating fish now if I can't know the source of it and also makes me wonder just wtf is in all the other food we eat.

No surprise that Monsanto is somehow involved in this all though

Do we have any Norwegian members here who know about this ?
 
Or (without watching the film), the fish gets parts per million dissolved in water but the guys treating them would get a concentrated dose. Hence, the guys were protective kit. Pretty much anything will kill you if you get too much if it in one go.
 
The fish you are eating and buying from your supermarket will have a ticket (fresh counter) or information on the packaging as to its source. You are not likely to be buying Norwegian farmed salmon from Tesco and Asda etc, you are likely to be buying Scottish farmed salmon.

Is it just fish you are concerned about? The cows milk you may drink is coming from cows pumped full of drugs. The vegetables you may eat are coming from fields sprayed with goodness knows what. The meat you may eat is coming from animals pumped full of drugs before slaughter. So it is of course the case that what you are buying and putting into your body from the supply and demand food chain absolutely contains traces or elements of whatever stuff may be getting used to speed up growth, prevent disease or whatever heck else they deem legal and viable in production.

Aquaculture is a much younger industry then the rest and there is a lot of change and much focus on adapting to findings as it grows. Fish farms in Scotland are only now finally releasing mortality data to show transparency on what is really going on which is a step in the right direction as well as things like re-circulation growing which shifts the farming from the open sea and fresh waters into contained environments.

That Mercola muppet and the likes of this video paint it that the salmon will rot you to death if you are to eat it but I do not see how it is worse than any other major food production industry at the moment.
 
xdcx said:
Is it just fish you are concerned about?
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It's more, what kind of planet and mess will we be leaving future generations to deal with and potentially suffer through

As you say aquaculture is young, there's relatively little study done on potential ecological disasters that may arise as a result of the way we farm the fish

There's an irony in slowly poisoning ourselves in order to sustain an unsustainable population
 
It's really chemicals that make the world what it is if you think about. The only way mass food production can occur. The only way capitalism can flourish. It's right at the very heart of everything.

I watched around 10 mins, looks quite good may watch all later. Do they actually test fish and water samples in the lab?
 
Minusorange said:
Certainly has put me off eating fish now if I can't know the source of it and also makes me wonder just wtf is in all the other food we eat.
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Cyanide, Formaldehyde, Catechins, Flavonoids, Quercetin, Epicatechin, Procyanidins, Phlorizin, Starch, Potassium, Manganese, Iron, Copper, Zinc, Phosphorous, Chloride, Sugars, Dihydrogen Monoxide and more.

NB: That's the ingredients of an organically grown Apple.
 
Do people not understand concentrations and doses? To be it plainly, if you eat too much chocolate you will die of theobromine poisoning. However if you consume way under the lethal amount it will be fine.
 
We patients are being blamed for the rise in the ineffectiveness of antibiotics yet most of the antibiotics we consume come from our meat. it's a public health issue when antibiotics important for human health are given to animals on a massive scale. Such use encourages the growth of drug-resistant bacteria that can cause hard-to-treat human disease.
 
Kronos said:
We patients are being blamed for the rise in the ineffectiveness of antibiotics yet most of the antibiotics we consume come from our meat. it's a public health issue when antibiotics important for human health are given to animals on a massive scale. Such use encourages the growth of drug-resistant bacteria that can cause hard-to-treat human disease.
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No they don't.
 
Most types of marine animals farms are much better for the environment than large scale ocean fishing.

For instance when they traul for shrimp, for every 1lb of shrimp they catch they throw back between 2-10lb of other dead fish they've 'accidentally' caught in the process.
 
VincentHanna said:
Most types of marine animals farms are much better for the environment than large scale ocean fishing.

For instance when they traul for shrimp, for every 1lb of shrimp they catch they throw back between 2-10lb of other dead fish they've 'accidentally' caught in the process.
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Having spent a number of years working on fish farms and in fish processing I can assure you that is not true. It may apply so some forms of commercial fishing, but on the whole fish farms wreck their local eco-systems and have massive effects on marine and other natural habitats.

I don't eat much fish, but I haven't eaten any fish that's been farmed since 1996. Practices have definitely improved but I still would not eat any farmed fish. Even just the colour of the flesh between organic and naturally caught fish v's the farmed variety should be enough to put anyone off.
 
checjb said:
Or (without watching the film), the fish gets parts per million dissolved in water but the guys treating them would get a concentrated dose. Hence, the guys were protective kit. Pretty much anything will kill you if you get too much if it in one go.
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This.


Pretty much any time you have someone spraying anything they'll be wearing safety gear because the person spraying it is getting exposed to massive doses for a prolonged period of time, whilst whatever is being sprayed is getting far smaller doses for far shorter times.

It's like saying you shouldn't have a shower because deep sea divers wear air tanks, or you shouldn't have an x-ray because the doctor/nurse performing it wears protective equipment/goes out of the room.
 
Werewolf said:
This.


Pretty much any time you have someone spraying anything they'll be wearing safety gear because the person spraying it is getting exposed to massive doses for a prolonged period of time, whilst whatever is being sprayed is getting far smaller doses for far shorter times.

It's like saying you shouldn't have a shower because deep sea divers wear air tanks, or you shouldn't have an x-ray because the doctor/nurse performing it wears protective equipment/goes out of the room.
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So you'd be fine with somebody lacing your breakfast with weed killer in small doses over x amount of years because it's only a small dose and in itself not enough to kill you outright without bothering to consider what effects it may have on a genetic level ? In terms of mutations and cancer which will **** you up

Because that's basically what is happening here
 
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