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SmokeKingGun said:
Honestly what would have happen to LUNR share price if it had crashed and burned!

Landed on moon (albeit slightly tilted!) and share price drops 30+ percent
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It’s all factored in… investors would have backed it regardless if it was successful or not as they knew the news would hype up the stock. They would have dumped it once they saw the value increase slowing down.

Expect a larger drop on Monday, the lander is rumoured to be on its side.
 
I don’t really agree the landing was factored into the price (especially now) but agree pump and dump is in full effect.

I’m going to hold but some stocks are behaving like crypto now with wild swings when nothing really has changed fundamentally or if anything has improved.

First private company to land on moon (and first in 52 years)
110 million ish contract with NASA (who are happy with landing)
All experiments/instruments functional solar at 100%

Yes the lander is having a slight lie down rather than sitting up!

But if all experiments can be completed and a nice moon selfie within 9-10 days (it’s expected shelf life) hoping for the wild swing other way!

With a low $300 million maket cap (if yahoo finance correct) thought it was worth a punt.

I still maybe naively think it’s worth a punt but I never have my eggs all in one basket.

This egg is going to have to sit and see if it hatches how :)

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If it goes to 0 fair enough I’ll take the hit.
 
I realise this is a broad question, but what are good sources of information for finding potential investments, due diligence etc. Are there any books on investing that are worth reading?

I've only ever gone with random punts historically, e.g. Nvidia which has worked out, but I bought them a couple of years ago just because I liked their GPUs, so it's pure luck.

I've started investing into VWRP recently but also looking for some interesting/riskier things to invest into.
 
SmokeKingGun said:
I don’t really agree the landing was factored into the price (especially now) but agree pump and dump is in full effect.
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Everything is factored in.. like said the investors wouldn't have cared if it landed or not.

There's three types of investors;
day traders; they don't care about the company nor their results.. they look for market tends and news and buy/sell shares based on what they think other people will do or think.

swing traders; they care more about the company and find companies trending to high or low and buy and sell shares in the hope that the shares will reverse within a day or a few months.

Those two are the ones that will be selling their shares or selling short now...

long term investors igrone all the hype and news and look at a company's business plans and results and are in it for the long run.
 
Ewaf said:
I realise this is a broad question, but what are good sources of information for finding potential investments, due diligence etc. Are there any books on investing that are worth reading?

I've only ever gone with random punts historically, e.g. Nvidia which has worked out, but I bought them a couple of years ago just because I liked their GPUs, so it's pure luck.

I've started investing into VWRP recently but also looking for some interesting/riskier things to invest into.
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It all depends on what sort of investor you would like to be...

How to Day Trade for a Living: A Beginner's Guide to Trading Tools and Tactics, Money Management, Discipline and Trading Psychology​

A Random Walk Down Wall Street: The Time-Tested Strategy for Successful Investing​

One Up On Wall Street: How To Use What You Already Know To Make Money In The Market​


are ones that I quite enjoyed.

don't read Intelligent Investor yet, it's badly outdated now a days and is a hard read but worth reading once you read a few others.

There's a lot of good books on how to become wealthy; there's that includes stock market help... but most of them basically say invest in a market tracker.

I will teach you how to be rich

Rich Dad Poor Dad​


YouTube have some great channels:
Those are professional who work in the finance or used to work in finance:

Those are random people (IMHO) with good channels:

None of them will tell you what to invest in, I don't think they will even tell you how to pick stocks or how they pick stocks, but it's a good branching off point, if you want to pick stocks of your own.

This guy reviews a lot of books and stock picking methods:

long term wise; I just invest in a tracker but I have another much smaller account where I swing trade in the hope that I make a quick few bucks.

Good luck.. :)
 
Ewaf said:
Incredible answer, thanks!

Yes pretty much what I'm looking to do, sensible long term but also a bit of fun in a smaller account.
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No worries.. if you search back this thread, I think I asked for recommendations myself and listed some of the books that I’ve already read to that point.

They all get very same-same after a while. There’s some good autobiographical books for investors which is quite different.. they are more about the person, how they think and how they invested. It may help develop your own style of investing and to learn from their mistakes.

Berkshire and hathaway was a big mistake.. it was a clothing company that he said he should have sold but he’s now changed it to one of the greatest investment company’s ever.. but it’s always a reminder that even the great Warren Buffett can mess up.

I tend to switch genres for a while once I get bored of reading one subject.
 
silversurfer said:
TSM is cheap I always thought so. Taiwan has a risk premium was I guess why, its now doubled from its lows.
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I meant Companies are paying a premium for TSMC production capacity. and they have a limited supply., I should word my posts better :p

IT will be hard for NVDA to continue growth in sales volumes.

seems jens already came out and said things are going to get more expensive though.
so I guess margins are going up.


but yea TSMC as a stock is kinda cheap because of the risks involved with China, personally I think the risks are overblown and TSMC is kinda moving into other places anyway.

if China takes Taiwan I'm guessing all the ASML machines become paperweights and TSMC stock still will have value as so few companies can do what they do.


I'd buy TSMC IF I could hold it in an ISA, I want all my stocks in the same place, I don't want to be switching between account types all the time
 
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China will never invade Taiwan.. it’s deep rooted history and worth looking into and starts with the Chinese civil war but the short reason is that China wants to believe that Taiwan is already part of its territory, invading would put an end to this..

It’s the same reason why Vatican City is seen as it’s only country.

Unless Taiwan does something to extremely upset China to the point where they can proclaim to be in forcing their law on their own people like Spain did with Barcelona, the current regime would rather just carry on this status quo.

The question is more down to the elected leaders of Taiwan and if they are more pro China, as China no doubts have backed certain nominees or if they are anti China and to what extreme.
 
SmokeKingGun said:
Honestly what would have happen to LUNR share price if it had crashed and burned!

Landed on moon (albeit slightly tilted!) and share price drops 30+ percent
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It fell over and they didn't report it till after the stock market closed seems to be the takeaway from this
slinxy said:
It’s all factored in… investors would have backed it regardless if it was successful or not as they knew the news would hype up the stock. They would have dumped it once they saw the value increase slowing down.

Expect a larger drop on Monday, the lander is rumoured to be on its side.
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Yeah its toaly fell over now.

Why do none of these missions include a robot wars style self righting mechanism?
 
arknor said:
if China takes Taiwan I'm guessing all the ASML machines become paperweights and TSMC stock still will have value as so few companies can do what they do.
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If china takes Taiwan TSMC facilties will be bombed into the ground by the allies.


And well have "the allies" again.

But yeah wish they where isa compatible. But tsmc and Asml both perform far worse than thier customers it seems
 
Ewaf said:
I realise this is a broad question, but what are good sources of information for finding potential investments, due diligence etc. Are there any books on investing that are worth reading?

I've only ever gone with random punts historically, e.g. Nvidia which has worked out, but I bought them a couple of years ago just because I liked their GPUs, so it's pure luck.

I've started investing into VWRP recently but also looking for some interesting/riskier things to invest into.
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Morningstar is decent, justetf is good for etf funds
 
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SmokeKingGun said:
I don’t really agree the landing was factored into the price (especially now) but agree pump and dump is in full effect.

I’m going to hold but some stocks are behaving like crypto now with wild swings when nothing really has changed fundamentally or if anything has improved.

First private company to land on moon (and first in 52 years)
110 million ish contract with NASA (who are happy with landing)
All experiments/instruments functional solar at 100%

Yes the lander is having a slight lie down rather than sitting up!

But if all experiments can be completed and a nice moon selfie within 9-10 days (it’s expected shelf life) hoping for the wild swing other way!

With a low $300 million maket cap (if yahoo finance correct) thought it was worth a punt.

I still maybe naively think it’s worth a punt but I never have my eggs all in one basket.

This egg is going to have to sit and see if it hatches how :)

11.07 average now

If it goes to 0 fair enough I’ll take the hit.
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But you have to ask yourself where is the money going to come from next year?
 
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SmokeKingGun said:
I don’t really agree the landing was factored into the price (especially now) but agree pump and dump is in full effect.

I’m going to hold but some stocks are behaving like crypto now with wild swings when nothing really has changed fundamentally or if anything has improved.

First private company to land on moon (and first in 52 years)
110 million ish contract with NASA (who are happy with landing)
All experiments/instruments functional solar at 100%

Yes the lander is having a slight lie down rather than sitting up!

But if all experiments can be completed and a nice moon selfie within 9-10 days (it’s expected shelf life) hoping for the wild swing other way!

With a low $300 million maket cap (if yahoo finance correct) thought it was worth a punt.

I still maybe naively think it’s worth a punt but I never have my eggs all in one basket.

This egg is going to have to sit and see if it hatches how :)

11.07 average now

If it goes to 0 fair enough I’ll take the hit.
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Now ~5.1 - That 0 seems to be creeping ever closer :D
 
Tefal said:
@Ewaf don't trust motleyfool. They are a pump.and dump.site, although trust them if you think you can dump before thier paid for readers but your public acess is the bagholder acess
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Motelyfool UK seems to push UK dividend stocks, they can try pumping LGEN or BT but doubt it will occur :cry:
 
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