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radderfire said:
I used to own shares in DS Smith, a British multinational packaging business. Up 109.78% over the last year, 3.02% dividend yield according to Google. Seems like an interesting business for a long term hold. I know it's not AI or anything buzzy though.
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its not about flash, but good business model. stable and reliable = good return long term so to speak. if it works for you thats whats important.
 
LostCorpse said:
its not about flash, but good business model. stable and reliable = good return long term so to speak. if it works for you thats whats important.
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Absolutely. For long term share investing I would always choose stable and reliable (and hopefully reasonably ethical), over many of the tech/growth companies, which carry too much risk.
 
mid_gen said:
I've been running the Deepseek r1 14b model on my PC this evening
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Ask it some question on sensitive to China topics like Taiwan and Tianamen square

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No way I'm letting that communist party sanctioned malware on my computer :cry:

I know you can run it without internet, I just wouldn't trust it
 
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Truth be told; they're all bad actors. Would I prefer to subscribe and submit data to my own nation-state versus a foreign one. Sure, but there all operating nefariously to one or two degree of each other. At least under open source licensing there is an opportunity to analyse what the hell is going on.

e: soz, just clocked this is entirely the wrong thread for this!
 
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lookitsjonno said:
China steals everything, why it is even surprising people is beyond me
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There's a fundamental cultural difference between China and the West. In Chinese culture, craftsmanship, the ability to make something, is prized more than originality. The US in particular over-values innovation and originality, to the detriment of simpler things like craftsmanship and making.

In China, if someone can sit and paint a brilliant replica of the Mona Lisa, they would be lauded for their talent. In the West we wouldn't give a toss.

This is why China has become the world's factory, while we sit here whining about copyright theft, they are just getting on actually making things that people want.
 
Regulation and employment costs in the west has just moved the opportunity to China. In some cases China is just playing middle man to goods produced in North Korea. Poor working conditions / slavery is all game as long as it's not on our doorstep. It's a strange world
 
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mid_gen said:
I've been running the Deepseek r1 14b model on my PC this evening, happily chugs along just running on the CPU, think it won't quite fit on my 4070, but it works as is.
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how much memory does that use?

I was thinking of testing one on a 4090 to see if they can code as good or better than chatgpt4.
it would mean stopping the ai every time, I want to train a machine learning model though as that uses tons of gpu memoery and cuda cores

if they are running locally can u still drop them web links to read?

with chatgpt I often link it depositaries on github and tell it to check other peoples code for compare, or to steal parts of a project
 
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mid_gen said:
This is why China has become the world's factory, while we sit here whining about copyright theft, they are just getting on actually making things that people want.
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part of the 100 year plan.
what would happen if China stopped being the world factory?
people as so used to getting stuff next day or same day deliverys at cheap costs.
those born before the 90s may have differant life expirences.
 
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