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S&P500 peak was 6150 has now dropped to near 5000 so that's an 18% drop. Bear market is defined by 20% and weakening economy. No real indicators that US economy is weakening just yet. Unemployment figures beat expectation despite Elon's best efforts. Inflation just about under control. Key question is how inflationary tarrifs are in the short term and how they feed into earnings. The bigger problem is that none of the other world economies are as strong as the US and they might be tipped into recession which would be bad for earnings for big US global companies.

I'm reckoning on a bit more of a fall for the next couple of weeks and then the prospect of earlier rate cuts to counter the tariff impact. Certainly won't be investing with the VIX at 40!
 
mid_gen said:
British companies don't grow like US companies.
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Whilst that may be true, particularly in the tech sector, it would still be nice to see more people here support the UK economy. The UK may not have a Magnificent 7, but I've often thought it would be nice if the UK could produce a Google rival. It's produced companies such as Deep Mind in the past. There are lots of mid-cap companies in the UK that can provide interesting returns or reasonable dividends IMO. Invest at home I say. All this Trump stuff is because he believes in investing in domestic manufacturing and supporting his own economy, and I'm with him on that, but for the UK.
 
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That would suck as most of the money is in US stocks (in normal times) and it's more risky for investors to be limited to one market.
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The tax benefits would still make it very good. Doesn't make sense for the UK to give such huge tax breaks for people investing in other countries does it?
 
radderfire said:
Whilst that may be true, particularly in the tech sector, it would still be nice to see more people here support the UK economy. The UK may not have a Magnificent 7, but I've often thought it would be nice if the UK could produce a Google rival. It's produced companies such as Deep Mind in the past. There are lots of mid-cap companies in the UK that can provide interesting returns or reasonable dividends IMO. Invest at home I say. All this Trump stuff is because he believes in investing in domestic manufacturing and supporting his own economy, and I'm with him on that, but for the UK.
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Any time a UK company starts to get big they just end up being sold off abroad. Then profit gets pocketed by the foreign owners and barely anything re-invested.

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The tax benefits would still make it very good. Doesn't make sense for the UK to give such huge tax breaks for people investing in other countries does it?
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Not much help if the stocks stay pretty flat, or grow super slowly. Which many UK ones do. The only ones worth looking at currently are defence companies. The UK car industry is crap and getting crapper, won't make anything there. Not much tech which hasn't already been sold off and asset stripped, no industry left, Labour has cancelled oil and gas exploration...
 
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Listen i know these youtube videos can be irritating sometimes ,clickbait of a mans shocked face and a chart covered in red ,(and link to a paid course) this totally contradicts my optimism for next week (based on a hope trump has to water things down ) for instance he likes Nvidia but wouldn't buy now , the section at around 6mins 40 mentions how hedge funds are dumping and retail buying and getting clapped also mentions active risk management vs just buy and hold i like to see how their predictions hold up anyway some interesting points

 
moon man said:
Listen i know these youtube videos can be irritating sometimes ,clickbait of a mans shocked face and a chart covered in red ,(and link to a paid course) this totally contradicts my optimism for next week (based on a hope trump has to water things down ) for instance he likes Nvidia but wouldn't buy now , the section at around 6mins 40 mentions how hedge funds are dumping and retail buying and getting clapped also mentions active risk management vs just buy and hold i like to see how their predictions hold up anyway some interesting points
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Does OcUK charge you per sentence you post or something?
 
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I can't see the tariffs going away because I can't see how trump can change course without making him look weak and losing the illusion of "the art of the deal". Unless a massive carrot is dangled in front of his already-orange face that he can sell as a "win".
 
One More Solo said:
Does OcUK charge you per sentence you post or something?
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TBF this is gf and I chucked at this , I don't have the luxury though as I am accused of baiting by the mod on here and given thread ban (please play small violin for me) two tier to the extreme
 
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moon man said:
Listen i know these youtube videos can be irritating sometimes ,clickbait of a mans shocked face and a chart covered in red ,(and link to a paid course) this totally contradicts my optimism for next week (based on a hope trump has to water things down ) for instance he likes Nvidia but wouldn't buy now , the section at around 6mins 40 mentions how hedge funds are dumping and retail buying and getting clapped also mentions active risk management vs just buy and hold i like to see how their predictions hold up anyway some interesting points

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"ye I know these vids suck and are irritating but here's one anyway"

lol
 
I read a story this morning on the national broadcaster website with some analysis predicting another 4.25% drop in the market being highly likely on Monday. Key point: i thought no-one can predict the market - so I dont see how the reported likely drop is credible. Mind you, it has put me off buying on Monday just in case.
 
Diddums said:
"ye I know these vids suck and are irritating but here's one anyway"

lol
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It was early and I hadn't taken my meds :p , anyway I might take you up on that museum tour one day so keeping quiet lol ( my eldest looks after coins and similar now at an Oxford one )
 
I'm burying my head in the sand and leaving my pension pot in 100% equities, and keeping paying monthly into my stocks and shares isa, also 100% equities.

I'm just not looking at em, and not bothering to closely follow the financial news.

Maybe uncertainty is the new norm?

Might take a peek at my tiny pile of physical gold :)
 
moon man said:
Listen i know these youtube videos can be irritating sometimes ,clickbait of a mans shocked face and a chart covered in red ,(and link to a paid course) this totally contradicts my optimism for next week (based on a hope trump has to water things down ) for instance he likes Nvidia but wouldn't buy now , the section at around 6mins 40 mentions how hedge funds are dumping and retail buying and getting clapped also mentions active risk management vs just buy and hold i like to see how their predictions hold up anyway some interesting points

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I think this guy is a pretty cynical but convincing shill - Felix that is. He's smart enough to know that most humans have soft spots for dogs and kittens but he really doesn't tell you much. I went on one of his webinars and he gave hardly any useful advice but spent most of the time, telling his life story and plugging his coaching program which costs about $1500. I quite like him but I think there are better channels and you certainly don't need to sign up for any of his webinars.
 
RxR said:
I read a story this morning on the national broadcaster website with some analysis predicting another 4.25% drop in the market being highly likely on Monday. Key point: i thought no-one can predict the market - so I dont see how the reported likely drop is credible. Mind you, it has put me off buying on Monday just in case.
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-4.25%? That would count as a recovery in the present climate!
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