Troy total war free

[K1LaW8tt5]

Yeah fair enough it's not for everyone either, I have been fortunate not had any issues with it, but the underlying game data is stored in some weird windows store based system which makes modding harder.

More competition is good, and my issue with Epic is more around exclusivity of games than it is on the giveaway front, as exclusivity reduces competition and choice as a consumer. I can see that they are going hard and fast on the exclusives still, at least I don't think they have made any more major blunders with them (like Exodus being pulled from Steam last minute).

As a developer, I could definitely see why they take the Epic money, but even that polarises potential consumers a bit.

Mind you I am a bit older, their strategy would probably work well as they have a lot of gamers coming up from the Fortnight ranks, and those people would not care where they got their games from.

Time will tell I guess, if Fortnight cash dries up can they carry on doing what they are doing, and for how long?

what happens when you stop subscribing to game pass?
You don't agree with what Epic are doing but you agree with subscription-based game access.

I would consider actual exclusivity being my favourite dev deciding their next game release is playstation only because sony threw money at them. I couldn't care less where I buy a PC game from or if it's limited to one store front. If it's too expensive I won't buy it anyway.

 

[HungryHippos]

what happens when you stop subscribing to game pass?
You don't agree with what Epic are doing but you agree with subscription-based game access.

I would consider actual exclusivity being my favourite dev deciding their next game release is playstation only because sony threw money at them. I couldn't care less where I buy a PC game from or if it's limited to one store front. If it's too expensive I won't buy it anyway.

The game pass is what it is, it's another avenue people can use, I am fully aware it's a subscription service, but Epic is not so the two are not directly comparable in that way.

Microsoft seem to be pulling in a different direction to Epic though, rather than going for exclusives recently, they seem to putting their titles in more places like Steam and the Game Pass.

Like I said before though, not really here to try and persuade people not to use Epic, it's just not for me as I can't agree with their approach, and even freebies won't tempt me over. I support peoples ability to make their own decisions, and for lots of people Epic is the best because of all the free games.

I'd be surprised if they can carry on giving away games for the long term, that is not exactly a business model that supports devs if people don't spend money on their store and just accept free games. The cash would run dry for that purpose eventually.

RE: First party exclusives like the Playstation releases, yes it kind of sucks but at least Sony are funding the development end-to-end, in the case of Epic they are poaching games that are already in development or nearing completion and preventing them hitting Steam at all costs.

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

The game pass is what it is, it's another avenue people can use, I am fully aware it's a subscription service, but Epic is not so the two are not directly comparable in that way.

Microsoft seem to be pulling in a different direction to Epic though, rather than going for exclusives recently, they seem to putting their titles in more places like Steam and the Game Pass.

Like I said before though, not really here to try and persuade people not to use Epic, it's just not for me as I can't agree with their approach, and even freebies won't tempt me over. I support peoples ability to make their own decisions, and for lots of people Epic is the best because of all the free games.

I'd be surprised if they can carry on giving away games for the long term, that is not exactly a business model that supports devs if people don't spend money on their store and just accept free games. The cash would run dry for that purpose eventually.

RE: First party exclusives like the Playstation releases, yes it kind of sucks but at least Sony are funding the development end-to-end, in the case of Epic they are poaching games that are already in development or nearing completion and preventing them hitting Steam at all costs.

My last statement I meant Sony paying a dev to make a new game PlayStation only where the previous game was multi platform(example only). That's actual exclusivity and I would be annoyed if say battlefield became PlayStation only. But a game being exclusive to one store isn't actually stopping anyone from buying/playing it on PC. Steam is just a store like Epic it's not a gaming platform as much as it wants to be.

And I agree the free games won't last forever.They are just a tool at the moment to get people onto their store.

 

[HungryHippos]

My last statement I meant Sony paying a dev to make a new game PlayStation only where the previous game was multi platform(example only). That's actual exclusivity and I would be annoyed if say battlefield became PlayStation only. But a game being exclusive to one store isn't actually stopping anyone from buying/playing it on PC. Steam is just a store like Epic it's not a gaming platform as much as it wants to be.

And I agree the free games won't last forever.They are just a tool at the moment to get people onto their store.

It's a smaller form of exclusivity even if it's not a platform exclusivity deal. Bit like having an exclusive film release at once cinema chain. You could go watch it at the one its being shown at, but that might not be the cinema you favour going to.

Steam is not perfect but they do at least have some useful features baked in that Epic is clearly missing. What I find strange is that Epic can throw so much money at games but can't advance their launchers features, you'd think they'd be able to hire some serious development talent with the sums that are talked about.

Been said a lot of times but I do consider things like reviews and a shopping cart basic features that should be present in a storefront, achievements and things less so, but modding support is crucial for some old games that would have otherwise died a long time ago, and Steam has pretty good modding support with their Steam workshop.

I also find it funny when some developers are posting updates and news items on their Steam pages even though their game is exclusive on Epic for a year, for example the devs of Chivalry 2. How bad is it that they can't publish their own news items to their Epic store pages?

If Epic truly want to compete they really need to invest more into their platform and road-map for it, not just make it a place to add games.

 

[.Lethal]

It's a smaller form of exclusivity even if it's not a platform exclusivity deal.

You don't like exclusivity, but you don't mind it when it suits your agenda.

 

[HungryHippos]

You don't like exclusivity, but you don't mind it when it suits your agenda.

No I don't like it all, what makes you think I do?

I'd prefer not to have any exclusivity deals on games across all platforms.

 

[opethdisciple]

Action video:

One issue I have with this series is there are too many CURRENT games.

Does one play the Chinese one, Troy when it launches or Warhammer 2?

Clearly they are gonna make money from the DLC's.

It's a bit like HP selling you a cheap printer knowing they will make the money back in expensive ink.

 

[arknor]

whys that youtuber shouting?

 

[Murf]

I'll wait for it to come out on Steam. Or more likely, I'll wait for the next major historical game. I'm really hoping Empire 2 at some point.

 

[Unseul]

I'll wait for it to come out on Steam. Or more likely, I'll wait for the next major historical game. I'm really hoping Empire 2 at some point.

Could you explain why? I mean, you have the legal opportunity to try it for free. There's nothing stopping you trying it for free, and later still buying it on steam. There's no contract that then locks you into buying games on epic launcher etc.

 

[Murf]

Could you explain why? I mean, you have the legal opportunity to try it for free. There's nothing stopping you trying it for free, and later still buying it on steam. There's no contract that then locks you into buying games on epic launcher etc.

I don't want to install another launcher, or reward a commercial business decision (exclusivity) that I strongly disagree with. If nobody installed the game, nobody, they wouldn't do it again. Every person that downloads the game, and then subsequently buys something from the Epic store is encouraging more exclusivity.

 

[Unseul]

I don't want to install another launcher, or reward a commercial business decision (exclusivity) that I strongly disagree with. If nobody installed the game, nobody, they wouldn't do it again. Every person that downloads the game, and then subsequently buys something from the Epic store is encouraging more exclusivity.

Can you tell me which launchers you do use?

 

[McPhee]

Is this petty discussion really needed, simultaneously, in two threads?

 

[K1LaW8tt5]

Is this petty discussion really needed, simultaneously, in two threads?

Apparently yes, every time Epic gives something away its annoys people because their launcher is poor, and steam is best and exclusivity and Tim Sweeney and China and mod support and user reviews( the same user reviews that get bombed by the way and are full of whining)

 

[Mr G]

The saga ones aren't usually as good.

You probably want to check out like Three Kingdoms or Warhammer/Warhammer2.

Will check these out... interested in trying something different.

 

[McPhee]

Will check these out... interested in trying something different.

If you're interested in the time period and setting, Three Kingdoms is widely regarded as the best game in the Total War series. Personally, the setting didn't click with me. It's probably me least played Total War title.

The ongoing support for Warhammer doesn't help there. The Warhammer project is by far the biggest project Creative Assembly has ever taken on. Warhammer II's Mortal Empires campaign features 13 playable races, and 54 playable factions (with some factions having multiple playable Legendary Lords to choose from, which can drastically change the faction's characteristics). Worth noting though that a lot of this content is DLC. I dread to think how much I've spent

The Warhammer series is quite "arcadey" as these games go. There's not a huge amount of campaign map micromanagement to do. If you're a beginner to this type of strategy game, it's probably the better place to start. As it stands today, there aren't many reasons to play the first Warhammer game. The second improves on the mechanics and greatly expands the world map. But it's still worth buying, as it's basically DLC for Warhammer II (owning the first game unlocks The Empire, Dwarfs, Vampire Counts, and Greenskins races for the Mortal Empires campaign).

EDIT: I should add, all of the Warhammer DLC is in-game whether you buy it or not. When you buy a DLC pack, it just unlocks that content for you to use. The upside of this being that you still get a "complete" experience for the ~£20 that WHII tends to sell for (on sale). If I play a campaign as Tyrion, I'm getting essentially the same experience as you will, despite me owning almost all of the DLC.

 

[Kelt]

Will check these out... interested in trying something different.

One of the best TW IMO is Total War Shogun II.

It was given away free recently, don't know if it still is.

 

[Goose]

I've put an obscene number of hours in to Empire during lockdown as I love that era with muskets and cannons etc. Even with Darthmod it's bugged to hell and back but it's still a lot of fun.

I bought Three Kingdoms recently but I just get seem to get in to it. I really dislike the OTT voice acting and the graphical style of the whole game, it's unbelievably bright with awful lurid colours. They might sound like petty criticisms but i just get in to it.

 

[Mr G]

One of the best TW IMO is Total War Shogun II.

It was given away free recently, don't know if it still is.

Where did you find this for free?

If you're interested in the time period and setting, Three Kingdoms is widely regarded as the best game in the Total War series. Personally, the setting didn't click with me. It's probably me least played Total War title.

The ongoing support for Warhammer doesn't help there. The Warhammer project is by far the biggest project Creative Assembly has ever taken on. Warhammer II's Mortal Empires campaign features 13 playable races, and 54 playable factions (with some factions having multiple playable Legendary Lords to choose from, which can drastically change the faction's characteristics). Worth noting though that a lot of this content is DLC. I dread to think how much I've spent

The Warhammer series is quite "arcadey" as these games go. There's not a huge amount of campaign map micromanagement to do. If you're a beginner to this type of strategy game, it's probably the better place to start. As it stands today, there aren't many reasons to play the first Warhammer game. The second improves on the mechanics and greatly expands the world map. But it's still worth buying, as it's basically DLC for Warhammer II (owning the first game unlocks The Empire, Dwarfs, Vampire Counts, and Greenskins races for the Mortal Empires campaign).

Like the sound of Warhammer II... Just loading up some videos on YT now as I fancy some of this.

 

[McPhee]

Where did you find this for free?



Like the sound of Warhammer II... Just loading up some videos on YT now as I fancy some of this.

I added a bad ninja edit regarding DLC.

WHII is £20 at CD Keys (or less at some of the dodgy sites). Really can't go wrong at that price, considering the amount of content you now get. It's a much more "complete" campaign than it was at launch. If you do buy it, there's a few bits of free DLC. I think you can use the free DLC from the first game too. Would be worth nabbing it to see if it works.