Trying to pull the statue of Saddam down

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But thats my point, who are these mystical pacifists who will have been surprised by todays events? As someone who has very many times condemned the war, I thought you might of included me in that category thats all.
 
I love the smell of hat eating in the morning :D

And I love the plethora of excuses certain individuals are coming up with :)

But to address just one, Dirtydog, you say that liberation is not even on the list of 'things to do in Iraq' (:p). Well answer me this, why was this the first thing that happened in Iraq?

And do you think that the UK and US would be stupid enough to start taking oil fields with the whole world watching?

It's a good day for the whole world :)
 
Originally posted by iam
I love the smell of hat eating in the morning :D

And I love the plethora of excuses certain individuals are coming up with :)

But to address just one, Dirtydog, you say that liberation is not even on the list of 'things to do in Iraq' (:p). Well answer me this, why was this the first thing that happened in Iraq?

And do you think that the UK and US would be stupid enough to start taking oil fields with the whole world watching?

It's a good day for the whole world :)
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Let me just reach inside my mouth and take out those words that you just put there :)
 
Originally posted by Will
Or is just making a point so as not to get carried away?
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Originally posted by Balddog
Failing to see your point mate. That square is merely a microcosm of Iraq as a whole.

PS, Who is Paul Adams?
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Pretty much what Will said. There pictures all look very nice, the coalition forces couldn`t have planned it better themselves;).
War is often interpreted as a release, and momentary pre-occupation with dreams of freedom mask the realities that lie ahead. We have seen that all round the world since blanket news coverage arrived. Short and long term there will be problems and resentment of what has happened. I think a great many Iraqis will/should fear what lies ahead just as much as they did Saddam.

Paul Adams - one of the plethora of BBC correspondents in the Middle East at the moment.
 
After the last 20 years of Saddam, i think its gotta be something terrible coming if they are to be more scared than they were of saddam
 
Equal not more;)

If you look at the fall of Communist governments in East Europe, we then saw war, genocide and now corruption of a level paralleled only in America:D. If I asked now which was better, I know what the majority answer would be. How will history really judge this though?
 
Originally posted by iam
I love the smell of hat eating in the morning :D

And I love the plethora of excuses certain individuals are coming up with :)
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I said all along I would not eat humble pie. We all knew that the US/Uk would win the war (we as in those who consider themselves anti-war). I haven't made any excuses up either.

I was watching the statue go down this afternoon, and it did fill me with a sense of happiness that many Iraqi's felt they could now speak out against the regime. At the end of the day though, regime change is not and is never likely to be a legal/ legitimate cause for war. And seeing as they still haven't found any WoMD's, the war is technically not legitimate.

No doubt they will find some WoMD's. If not, Blair could find himself in very deep trouble (war crimes). There's a thread in SC about it with more details as to why (including a link from Nat explaining why Blair could very likely be tried, and why Bush is very likely not to).

Even so, it was a great thing to witness today. Let's just hope the US/ UK do what they should have done back in 1991 and actually see something through to the end.
 
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