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TSMC says globalisation is dead, as it breaks ground on its advanced U.S Fab

Freddie1980 said:
It took all of 5 posts to turn this thread from a topic about TSMC's fab building strategy to sanctimonious defeatist whing fest.
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I find it quite odd that supposed fully grown men on this forum are frightened of having a proper discussion and very quickly label anything that doesn't fall into their world view as "whinging" or "wrong speak"... the Volkspolizei of 50's/60's east Germany would've loved a lot of the members of this forum on their squads.
 
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Dicehunter said:
I find it quite odd that supposed fully grown men on this forum are frightened of having a proper discussion and very quickly label anything that doesn't fall into their world view as "whinging" or "wrong speak"... the Volkspolizei of 50's/60's east Germany would've loved a lot of the members of this forum on their squads.
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I think you'll find the problem isn't what you are talking about but where you're talking about it.

Just take it the appropriate section of the forum.
 
Moving on slightly back to topic...

Considering GPUs no longer use the latest process anyway (eg AMD using 5/6nm) this is still a good thing instead of relying on one area to ship to everywhere. I suppose the issue is if these chips will cost more than their Asian counterparts due to different labour costs and other factors.
 
Orcvader said:
Moving on slightly back to topic...

Considering GPUs no longer use the latest process anyway (eg AMD using 5/6nm) this is still a good thing instead of relying on one area to ship to everywhere. I suppose the issue is if these chips will cost more than their Asian counterparts due to different labour costs and other factors.
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Depends on how much profit the fab companies want to make, They could still pay a decent wage in the US and make a tidy profit by not overcharging for the wafers and fabrication but that's being a little too optimistic :D
 
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Dicehunter said:
It's a mix of these 2 and more, You cannot import the 3rd world en masse who largely have vastly incompatible cultures and mindsets while also slowly dismantling your own country to fill your pockets and expect a good outcome.

I'm an immigrant to the UK and I understand this very well but a lot of indigenous British people are sticking their heads in the sand pretending their own country isn't going to hell in a hand basket.

I'm just glad I won't be here when the **** inevitably hits the fan, Thankfully moving country at the latest of 2024 but all being well the end of next year.
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LtMatt said:
Preach brother.
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You putting Matt in your hand luggage when you go?:p
 
Dicehunter said:
I'm an immigrant to the UK but I'm leaving likely around the end of next year as I'm not liking the direction it's going.

There's a saying my grandfather had "You don't stay on a sinking ship to see how deep it will go".
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So you're saying the ugly old white man is innocent from this?
 
It looks like the Taiwan government did not like TSMC saying globalisation is dead, insisting it is not and that chips will continue to be made in Taiwan and sold to the world.

Chinese media have put out stories calling TSMC's $40billion Arizona Fab which will produce 4nm, 3nm and 2nm process nodes a "dark day"

And apparently in Taiwan there is some feeling that America is trying to steal TSMC, but this good video disproves that

 
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