Turkish Grand Prix 2011, Istanbul Park - Race 4/19

sr4470 said:
That would explain Coulthard making a meal of the 2001 race, sitting behind Bernoldi's Arrows for ~40 laps despite having a clearly quicker car :p

No, it needs a good driver first and foremost.
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They are all good drivers, some are just better at overtaking than others. You still need a much faster car or someone infront to make a mistake - Monaco is just too narrow to open up any kind of overtaking opportunity.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
They are all good drivers, some are just better at overtaking than others. You still need a much faster car or someone infront to make a mistake - Monaco is just too narrow to open up any kind of overtaking opportunity.
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We'll have to wait and see what happens in 2011 I guess...Monaco and wet weather has always produced interesting races.
 
Have a problem, internets been down since Saturday, was meant to be fixed Sunday, then Monday, then yesterday now they aren't even giving an estimate, so no thread until or if it's fixed.
 
Virgin

Usually really good, but this time it sucks.
There's going to be a complaint letter, they haven't even offered me a discount,but what annoys me more, is even though they know there's a wide spread fault, it's not showing on their status site,
 
Have you thought about switching ISP?
I remember a while back you had a similar problem with your internet connection (I think this may have been when you first got connected...not sure).
I've been using O2(Be unlimited) for many years now and I seriously cannot remember having any down time during the day time.
 
Yeah when they first installed it, they plugged the cables in the wrong way round. That was 18months ago and since then this has been about the third outage (well forth if you include landlord aciedently cutting the cable), but usually it's an hour to one day.

I actually like virgin 50mb advertised and I get 50mb, it just seems the infrastructure or perhaps it's just finer optics in general are more prone to outages.

Also adsl I would get about 3mb, which would suck.
 
I understand.
I guess the downside with bleeding edge technology is that there are always teething problems which need to be sorted out.

My understanding is that Virgin have download caps during peak times which is something I dislike. There are other companies which are coming to market though, with 'fibre to the cabinet' services, which promise to offer performance close to that of Virgin's 50Mbit service. That's what I'm waiting for.
 
Virgin doesn't have limits on 50mb, So that's not an issue.

Bt is the only other fibber optics provider ATM. But it's darn expensive to install and as such is in even more limited places than virgin.

Would love to know if fiber optics is more prone to complete failure, where adsl seems to be more resilient and just drop in speed. Or if it's just virgin.

Edit - actually is a bit of limit for file sharing, but I don't use such systems

At peak times we also slow down the speed of file sharing traffic – that's services like Limewire, Gnutella, BitTorrent and Newsgroup (Usenet) traffic. You will, of course, still be able to use these services, but downloads and uploads will take longer during these peak periods.
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10GB limit between 10am and 3pm
5GB limit between 4pm and 9pm

So not that restrictive.
 
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arknor said:
before pitting for hards and trying to make them last the rest of the race.
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the hard tires are not hard, they last the same distance as the option tires but the prime tires give less grip.

the softs 'options' give the same life distance as the hards 'prime' but give more grip.

so what I would do is qualifine on the prime's and pit after 10 laps also then do another 2 stops on fresh unused sets of options (softs)
 
Dutch Guy said:
So you would start lower down, race the first 10 laps 2-3 seconds slower than the leader and hope you can overtake a lot of cars after the 1st stop?
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We have seen that fresh unused softs do make a difference, and that + DRS makes overtaking 'easy', still not sure it's a perfect strategy,

I think the best bet is doing what Hamilton did in China, use one set of 'hards' to get through both the first and second bits of qualifying, then a single set of softs to do one run in the final bit of qualifying, meaning you can get a decent grid position and start on the same tyres as everyone else whilst also having a brand new set of hards and iirc 2 brand new softs for the race...
 
just use up the prime tires in qualifine, get into the top 10 shoot out ie Q3, and set the time on the hard tires, so you are maybe in 6th-8th or maybe even 10th but after those 10 also laps you can put the option tires on and then woop, lighter car + option tires = fast lap times.

just look at webber in the previous race's, but just imagen if he started from 10th, he would had won that race easy.

but im not sure if you would loose 3 seconds a lap, but maybe 1 second would be more realistic, but it depends on many factors such as tyre wear.

@SKILL there are no soft tires only prime and option tires.

the options last the same distance as the primes but they produce more grip.
 
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Kerming said:
but im not sure if you would loose 3 seconds a lap, but maybe 1 second would be more realistic, but it depends on many factors such as tyre wear.
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Problem is that you are not limited by your speed but limited by the car in front.

I agree it is a strategy that could work but it is a gamble and most off the time the race is won by a car that started on the first rows.
 
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