TV Licence Super Thread

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We all know there are people who pay for a TV license happily and help the cost towards other services. We also know there are people who avoid paying the license fee and do watch live TV. We also know people who don't watch live TV or any other services that are provided by BBC and don't pay. As long as you don't watch live TV/BBC iPlayer you are fine not to pay. The local councils have only put up most peoples council tax around 5%. BBC must be making an awful lot of profit if they want to keep this model.

This debate is going to go on for a very long time if the BBC doesn't come up with a new solution. I haven't done any sort of calculations but one way that it could be taken is integrate it into city Council Tax as a new service. This could be a 10 year roll out with the UK divided up on who pays what to what council (make it fair right across the board, an extra 8 pound a month) into council tax. Each council could have a new TV department. This way there won't be the debate on should they pay or not and content in the UK is stream lined.

I know this probably won't be the only solution, probably many more but I'm no expert in any field like this. I'm just sick of hearing about BBC debates with these kind of debates. As I said the only reason I think the BBC hasn't moved on this is because a personal opinion is they are making enough profit. All the big companies are making super profit these days anyway! if it was me I would be giving stuff away for free. Look at Apple for example look at how much money this company is making.
 
Let the BBC die if it must. If there's one thing you shouldn't bail out it's a entertainment outlet with 2 channels and a bit of radio and a ridiculously costly news platform etc
 
Can you ignore TV Licence?
No, you can safely ignore them if you don't have a TV on site. They like to sound urgent so that you'll act if you do, but if you don't then you are under no obligations. But do remember that the TV licence isn't for watching TV, it is a licence for the ability to watch TV.

F'em not getting near me. ;)
 
mrbell1984 said:
Would this be a smart move do you think? I wounder how TV sales are going throughout the UK, I dare bet they have decreased but can't find stats.
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No way. People have bigger and bigger tvs. Watch Netflix, YouTube and play computer games on mine.
Only reason for any decline would be same as mobile phones.'i don't need a better one'
 
413x said:
Let the BBC die if it must. If there's one thing you shouldn't bail out it's a entertainment outlet with 2 channels and a bit of radio and a ridiculously costly news platform etc
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Why must it die?
Since when was a funding model a bailout?
2 channels and a bit of radio? :p

You appear to have gone full freetard...
 
mrbell1984 said:
Letting a company this size die has repercussions on peoples lives. Did you not think about the people who work here? Lost jobs on massive scale.
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This happens all the time. Otherwise we'd still be producing horse and carts on a large scale.
You can't prop up what isn't needed.the world doesn't work that way. Companies die all the time and aren't propped Up. It's happened to me in the past.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
Council tax is a tax on domestic property collected by your local council. The council use it to pay for local services such as schools, rubbish collection, roads and street lighting. In Scotland it also includes a charge for water and sewerage.

you think lighting up all the streets in your city is cheap?

oh but wait you don't use them? without them it would be like living in africa. go there then and don't pay it.
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String said:
You'd be happy to transport your own rubbish on a weekly basis? In what, your car? A trailer? And where would you take it?

I'm sorry, but you're being ridiculous with that and it only highlights how essential the service is even if the method of funding is up for debate (council tax - poll tax - local income tax etc..)

Your argument for not paying your council tax is just as weak as the argument for not paying the TV licence fee. I've had similar conversations with people (Ltd. Company) who think they shouldn't pay income tax.

It's generally based on selfish entitlement.
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Kids are in private education ... i pay for that already , why would i pay for other kids education ( generally its nice to keep the standard of education high and free for all , im not a monster but if we are going to talk on a on a what does it do for me basis ). Have you seen the standards of road in north of scotland? Me and my partner ( with neighbours help ) actually went out last week to repair our own main road its that bad. Rubbish collection is being changed to once fortnightly due to '' cost saving messures '' at which point i would be extremely happy to dispose of my own rubbish in a legal fashion .... i dont live in a city so street lighting is at a bare minimum anyway due to location.
i accsept there are things that need to be paid for in some manor or capacaity , but we really do get poor value for money.

as for selfish entittlemnt , well i look after my family not the rest of the countrys. so if thats selfish then yes i am.
 
MasterOC said:
... so if thats selfish then yes i am.
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Yes, you are.

MasterOC said:
Have you seen the standards of road in north of scotland?
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I mean seriously, your arguments are just paper thin. Have you drove along the Aberdeen Bypass recently? The M74? The M8? There have literally been billions spent on Scotland's roads, from Aberdeen to Glasgow to Edinburgh to Fife... New Forth Crossing? Travelling to Dundee has been a nightmare recently due to all the upgrades.

Be honest, you don't want to pay because of your selfish entitlement. The irony is that you're expecting everyone else to pay for you and at the same time asking why you should pay for others. Why try to justify it with easily debunked nonsense?

p.s you still haven't told us how you would transport those wheelie bins and where you would take them to.
 
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Psycho Sonny said:
What is a tv licence goon? People that obey the law?
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A TV Licence Goon is a TV Licence Salesperson who knocks on doors of people who don't have a TV Licence. They try to trick people into a signed confession on their door step without even seeing proof that they are or are not watching live TV broadcasts.
 
String said:
Yes, you are.



I mean seriously, your arguments are just paper thin. Have you drove along the Aberdeen Bypurgh to Fife... New Forth Crossing? Travelling to Dundee has been a nightmare recently due to all the upgrades.

Be honest, you don't want to pay because of your selfish entitlement. The irony is that you're expecting everyone else to pay for you and at the same time asking why you should pay for others. Why try to justify it with easily debunked nonsense?

ass recently? The M74? The M8? There have literally been billions spent on Scotland's roads, from Aberdeen to Glasgow to Edinb
p.s you still haven't told us how you would transport those wheelie bins and where you would take them to.
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how are they paper thin? , there not really arguments more a case in state of my own inhabitancy. nope dont travel that way im afraid , but i can say further up north very little is spent on the A9 and north of inverness generally. I Dont want to pay a ridiculous rate of council tax due to the small amount of services i receive and or use on a personal level. ive already said id pay for rubbish to be disposed of seperatly from council tax so in what ever means the facilities are there to do that... Food waste will be composted and any non degradables will go to where nessasary at a cost seperate from the council tax... Twice ive stated this and this time in a bit more clarity , im not aversioned to paying my way, but in an overly taxed manor i certainly am. Selfish entittlement is a misnomer , entittlement is always selfish. I am enttitled to what i pay for and no more. i dont expect nor do i want others to pay my way. i do this myself. its you who are expecting me to pay for more then a fair share. so use a different word as it doesnt fit the bill im afraid.
 
413x said:
This happens all the time. Otherwise we'd still be producing horse and carts on a large scale.
You can't prop up what isn't needed.the world doesn't work that way. Companies die all the time and aren't propped Up. It's happened to me in the past.
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Then in that case BBC must die. :D

LeeUK said:
What, like when the Govt closed down whole industries like coal mining and steel works?
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Exactly! My dad was one of them. Ended up getting locked up for beating up a police officer. :p
 
MasterOC said:
Kids are in private education ... i pay for that already , why would i pay for other kids education ( generally its nice to keep the standard of education high and free for all , im not a monster but if we are going to talk on a on a what does it do for me basis ). Have you seen the standards of road in north of scotland? Me and my partner ( with neighbours help ) actually went out last week to repair our own main road its that bad. Rubbish collection is being changed to once fortnightly due to '' cost saving messures '' at which point i would be extremely happy to dispose of my own rubbish in a legal fashion .... i dont live in a city so street lighting is at a bare minimum anyway due to location.
i accsept there are things that need to be paid for in some manor or capacaity , but we really do get poor value for money.

as for selfish entittlemnt , well i look after my family not the rest of the countrys. so if thats selfish then yes i am.
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Okay so you can afford to send your kids to private school.

You do realise their teachers (education), the roads they travel to and from school on. The lights around the school. The litter collection and street cleaning around the school will be done by the council?

Do you own a business? Well your employees will have been educated at public schools so you are reaping the benefits of having employees who have been educated by a good public system.

Basically if you are so against the system here. Why don't you bugger off? That is a rhetorical question btw. Essentially you want to have your cake and eat it but don't want to pay for it.
 
MasterOC said:
I Dont want to pay a ridiculous rate of council tax due to the small amount of services i receive and or use on a personal level. ive already said id pay for rubbish to be disposed of seperatly from council tax so in what ever means the facilities are there to do that... Food waste will be composted and any non degradables will go to where nessasary at a cost seperate from the council tax... Twice ive stated this and this time in a bit more clarity , im not aversioned to paying my way, but in an overly taxed manor i certainly am
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Dude, you live in Caithness. Can't you see that you're actually subsidised by the more densely populated areas like Inverness and beyond? If you only paid for what you actually use, and only those who actually used those services had to pay, then your council tax bill would be dwarfed.

How much do you think you would have to pay for a company to visit you three times a week to transport your rubbish to the nearest landfill and dispose of it? That alone would probably cost more than your annual council tax bill. Should we hook up a meter to the street lights on your little street and split the cost between you and your neighbours? One winter storm up there could wipe out your savings paying for the damage to be cleaned up.

Try to see the world beyond your own doorstep.
 
Haven't paid for a license since the "live TV" rule can into force as I'm a catch-up and, more recently, a Netflix type viewer now.

However I'm at my sisters house for a few days where she has Virgin and having to watch adverts again after so long without them is painful at the very least!

EDIT - Not an iPlayer user either.
 
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ianh said:
Haven't paid for a license since the "live TV" rule can into force as I'm a catch-up and, more recently, a Netflix type viewer now.

However I'm at my sisters house for a few days where she has Virgin and having to watch adverts again after so long without them is painful at the very least!
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You know you need a license for IPlayer, right?
 
Basher said:
You know you need a license for IPlayer, right?
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It isn't really fair to say that you need one is it, you do not. The BBC require you to have one but i would imagine that he is happy to take the chance that they wont spot him occasionally opening iplayer.
 
Jez said:
It isn't really fair to say that you need one is it, you do not. The BBC require you to have one but i would imagine that he is happy to take the chance that they wont spot him occasionally opening iplayer.
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Sure, in the same way you don't need a TV License to watch live TV.
 
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