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TV Licence Super Thread
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one of articles I'd read https://fingerprint.com/blog/vpn-detection-how-it-works/#detecting-vpn-browser-extensions
but my understanding is that it takes very few pieces of information about receiving computer hardware&software to uniquely ID you,
all of which can be sent back to BBC server through vpn; mac address would be useful
are there any publication of court records to hear what the nature of the proof was .. or had the defendants pleaded guilty.
All that article says is that it's possible to detect if someone is using a VPN. It doesn't say it can be used to check what someone is watching.
Guys, please put as much effort into ignoring @GaryTheSnail as you do the TV licence letters and Capita inspectors
read another of their articles on fingerprinting eg https://fingerprint.com/blog/browser-fingerprinting-techniques/
'Assume they got our phones, assume they got our houses, assume they got us'
... but the question is how has evidence, practically, been presented for convictions, can undisclosed, to culrprit, investiagatory tyype power, evidence be presented
I just skim read that article. But it appears to be talking about browser fingerprinting where the server can identify several sessions as belonging to the user even if they try to hide that fact. Mainly used to target advertising (and fraud detection as mentioned in the article).
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Not a particularly great article given it's from a provider that it attempting to punt 'detection' type services.
Although, VPN detection and device 'fingerprinting'* doesn't determine an individual/household though; at best, they would see someone accessed their service via a VPN provider using a device with this 'fingerprint' - it's why streaming services tend to blanket block VPN providers.
'User error' would the only way i can see a streaming service pinpointing an individual/household but, a user accessing a streaming service only via a (true) 'no log' VPN provider using a browser would be (imo, extremely) challenging to 'uncloak'.
* It's a pretty broad term although browser fingerprinting is pretty rough at best and certainly isn't 100% accurate and not specific to an individual device.
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So that's not much effort at all then.
You are assuming the gender of everyone. tsk tsk tsk
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Honestly, it wouldn't surprise me if they simply have the IP address - then contact the ISP to see who it is; I very much doubt that they do more than that.
When it comes to VPN use, they will simply block the IP address that whoever (Surfshark, Nord etc etc) uses - it's not like they're unknown addresses, and it's the sort of thing Nextflix did/do.
I very much doubt anyone will put in the effort to engage computer forensic levels of investigation, just for someone watching live streams from the Beeb. Unless said person(s) were making a public show of how they still watch, and don't pay - then they'd likely fork out the money to make a point.
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maybe I'll give this a free trial - fingerprint.com V
they suggest their tech will be able to recognise you via a vpn, or natural,
so it might be able to tell the BBC that that VPN access to iplayer, was the same user who accessed the bbc news website
maybe I'll give this a free trial - fingerprint.com V
they suggest their tech will be able to recognise you via a vpn, or natural,
so it might be able to tell the BBC that that VPN access to iplayer, was the same user who accessed the bbc news website
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Soldato
C'mon, own up. Who keeps putting 50p in the bot?
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The OCUK hamsters are funding the hamster wheel while they watch live tv for free.
Caporegime
14th March 2023
BBC TV licence evasion is on the rise as new figures reveal nearly 2,000 people are convicted for the crime each week in England and Wales. The BBC estimates that nearly one in ten people (9%) who need a TV licence didn’t have one in the year ending March 2022, nearly double the rate seen just seven years before.
BBC TV licence fee row as thousands prosecuted each week for failing to pay
Data has revealed how many people are being prosecuted each week for failing to pay their BBC TV licencewww.londonworld.com
That's some stats....
The third most common "crime" is not paying for "have you got a louicence to watch the BBC sir?" that is so pathetically British isn't it?
______ me!
Been a few weeks now since I cancelled my licence and no visits from Gary Lineker and the only letter I have received is a cheque from them for £75 which was odd as I paid monthly…..
Tbh I’m a bit disappointed…..
Tbh I’m a bit disappointed…..
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I seem to remember when i cancelled i got a refund that i couldn't understand why and £75 seems familiar. This was umpteen odd years ago tho but fret not, the merrygoround of letters will start, and on and on they will go.
The first few are gentle and nice, then the threats ramp up culminating in the red envelope. Nothing happens and the cycle starts again. However i care not a jot as i do not watch the TV in any way that goes against the rules. I think the phrase is legitimately licence free.
I did at the start inform them i did not need a licence and at least twice got a two year promise i wouldn't hear from them, which they did stick to but then the letters started coming. It must cost them a bit mind.
( don't watch videos with stupid expressions on the header - my ublockO extensions take care of that )
if only my licenser fee wasn't paying for reality tv -
now another series of bloody Sugar, following Traitors, master chef, pro chef, strictly, dragons den - it's a monotone annual roundabout
if only my licenser fee wasn't paying for reality tv -
now another series of bloody Sugar, following Traitors, master chef, pro chef, strictly, dragons den - it's a monotone annual roundabout
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Gf has derped.
She's been using iplayer with her details.
Now I'm not sure if the letter we got is legit or just scare tactics.
It has her name, our address and has said "you've been watching iplayer a few times in the last month.. You need to pay or else".
I asked her. And she said she has.. But it was months ago.
I'm not sure the letter is legit... Ie they have evidence. . Or it's just another scare tactic letter.
Anyone else had anything like this?
She's planning to pay and then get a refund. I'm certainly not sharing the cost lol.
Told her it might just be scare tactics. But it's the first one that has had teeth imo.
She's been using iplayer with her details.
Now I'm not sure if the letter we got is legit or just scare tactics.
It has her name, our address and has said "you've been watching iplayer a few times in the last month.. You need to pay or else".
I asked her. And she said she has.. But it was months ago.
I'm not sure the letter is legit... Ie they have evidence. . Or it's just another scare tactic letter.
Anyone else had anything like this?
She's planning to pay and then get a refund. I'm certainly not sharing the cost lol.
Told her it might just be scare tactics. But it's the first one that has had teeth imo.
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They will have an ip address, which is enough.