TV Licence Super Thread

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Nasher said:
The government was fine breaking up and selling off public services, so they can do it with the BBC. Which isn't nearly as important.
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There are people here who are salivating at the idea of it going in to tax, ensuring everyone must pay. It’s an important national service after all… :cry:

It’s 2025, the people of a country should not be held to ransom to pay for a company like this. People still think about the BBC like it’s 50 years ago.
Move to another way of funding, and stay open on merit. Or close down… That’s an option.
 
Felon said:
I’ve had 3-4 letters through recently, even though I told them online that I don’t need a license. The letters basically say:

“Previously you told us you didn’t need a license but this may have changed!!! Blah blah”

**** off, stop filing my letterbox with ****

Being harassed like this over the damn television, it’s ridiculous.
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Yeh I get these a lot.

Like a sort of passive aggressive reminder that a TV license exists.

If they are worried about money, perhaps they should stop wasting so much on useless letters and postage.
 
That's why you don't engage. It results in the same crap from being posted regardless. I'm sure I've posted in here when I was last on a letter saying we're going to visit you next month. Loads of letters since and no visits. A waste of paper and time. Goes straight in the bin.
 
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Nasher said:
The government was fine breaking up and selling off public services, so they can do it with the BBC. Which isn't nearly as important.
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This.
Water... Nah, let's let that be private.
Postal service.. Yeah sell that off.

BBC? No... We will fund that through tax.. That absolutely essential service.


Break. It up.
Keep Radio and regional news as tax.
Spin off the entertainment (I use the term loosely) and make it survive on its own.

We don't even need national news from. BBC. There's More than enough outlets covering that.
 
The last place I want to hear news from, is the BBC. Who knows how they’ll have altered the narrative?
What entertainment do they make these days? Will the UK really suffer if they don’t get to watch "doctors" or similar trash?
 
well someone has been watching traitors/strictly/attenborough/wallace etc. the GenZ hypocrites, viewing figures don't lie, and won't exclude those watching illicitly.

even if BBC news(newsnight/QT...) is now a populist click-bait arena - radio4 (today especially) is content you can't get elsewhere and you don't need to look at your phone to ingest it on the commute,
eating breakfast, on the snooze button.

e: LOL genz were activated bit of social media stuff like netflixpide-piper
Billy, Client Director at Talon, shared his thoughts on the campaign:

“Next-Gen Media have provided a great opportunity for the BBC to showcase one of their most popular shows with a nationwide DOOH campaign and live viewing experience directly to a key target audience. From briefing stage to activation, the process has been seamless throughout, with constant communication and reassurance that all is in hand. Looking forward to seeing the success from these activations!”

Guy, our Co-Founder and CEO added:

“We are delighted to have collaborated with our key partners, Talon and Havas, promoting the latest series of BBC’s, The Traitors, to our valuable audience of young people. We ran the campaign across our national digital out-of-home network in universities, supported by exclusive finale watch party events to amplify the activation. It’s been amazing to see the shows’ popularity continue to rise, especially with Gen-Z, so we can’t wait to go bigger and better for 2026.”
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BBC viewer figures have pretty much halved compared 20 years ago, and that's the figures they are being honest about. For under 25s it's something like 80% down.

They are done and they know it. Which is why they want to force money from everyone though tax to keep their inflated wages going. 20 years from now, no one is going to be watching this crap.

It has been plummeting ever since streaming services and youtube arrived.
 
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Nasher said:
BBC viewer figures have pretty much halved compared 20 years ago, and that's the figures they are being honest about. For under 25s it's something like 80% down.

They are done and they know it. Which is why they want to force money from everyone though tax to keep their inflated wages going. 20 years from now, no one is going to be watching this crap.

It has been plummeting ever since streaming services and youtube arrived.
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I love the way they describe it as "license fee evasion". Dressing it up as people wat watching BBC and not paying. When many just don't watch it.
 
LuckyBenski said:
The vast majority of TV license income goes to the BBC, but the TVL model was defined back in the era of just two or three channels.

As it stands at present, the registered Public Service Broadcasters are BBC, ITV, C4, C5 (plus regional STV and S4C). They are all held to the same PSB requirements by OfCom, despite the varying funding models.

Other non-PSB channels still require a TV license too though, so it's really just an extension of the original model.
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Point of clarification - Don't need a TV license for on-demand S4C, via their website (although you do for live broadcast, or recording directly from a live broadcast)
 
jpaul said:
well someone has been watching traitors/strictly/attenborough/wallace etc. the GenZ hypocrites, viewing figures don't lie, and won't exclude those watching illicitly.
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I thought viewing figures were entirely estimates based on surveys?
 
It'll be interesting to see what comes out in the consultation (I've snipped bits from an article to remove Trump suing the BBC & other political stuff.)

Culture Secretary Lisa Nandy is said to be planning to launch her consultation on the BBC's royal charter before Christmas.
She will reportedly look into a wholesale reform of the contentious licence fee under a "comprehensive look at the way the BBC operates".
Labour's rumoured review could include issues of governance and would be "more fundamental than individuals".
It is set to look into a part-subscription, part-licence fee model to diversify the corporation's income as Britons turn away from the mandatory payments.

As revenues have fallen and prices have increased, licence fee evasion has more than doubled in the past four years alone - from 6.95 per cent in 2019-20 to 11.3 per cent in 2023-24.
Former Culture Secretary Sir John Whittingdale - who oversaw the most recent charter renewal in 2016 - admitted the licence fee was not sustainable in the long term.
"It is now the reality that each year a number of people stop paying, because they decide they no longer need the BBC because they are accessing all the services they want through streaming services," he said.
"There is a risk of a tipping point where the steady trickle of people saying they’re not going to pay becomes a flood. We are not there yet, but it is in sight."

The Government will first release a green paper on the new charter, then a white paper setting out the Culture Secretary's plans for the next 10 years of the BBC.
Ms Nandy has revealed she hopes to be "radical" with the licence fee in the past, and has refused to rule out a full subscription model.
Downing Street's line, meanwhile, is: "We're preparing for the upcoming charter review, which we expect to launch in due course, and will consider a range of issues including how the BBC can continue to prosper, supported by sustainable funding."

Hopefully it'll go full subscription with no talk of adding it onto council tax or suchlike, but I very very much doubt it.
 
As I have expressed previously on several occasions, Revert the BBC World Service back into the budget of the FCO (taxpayer-funded), as it was previously, to project British values and soft power. The rest can go to a subscription model and let it stand on its own.
 
Did you know, that the enforcement agents who are based in Mainland UK are also sent over to the Channel Islands? Fully funded trips undoubtedly, paid for by license payers to "catch out" how many people?

I'm in Guernsey, and don't currently have a TV license and do not ever intend to.
 
PermaChanged said:
Did you know, that the enforcement agents who are based in Mainland UK are also sent over to the Channel Islands? Fully funded trips undoubtedly, paid for by license payers to "catch out" how many people?

I'm in Guernsey, and don't currently have a TV license and do not ever intend to.
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To be fair it's hardly worth employing people full time in the Channel Islands, is it..
 
DIABLO said:
To be fair it's hardly worth employing people full time in the Channel Islands, is it..
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Is it worth policing it at all is my question, not that they should employee full time within the islands.

Most I assume pay blindly - how many properties would you anticipate they check and actually extract funds from on a visit? Hit rate would be extremely low I'd imagine!
 
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