UEFA Champions & Europa League Football Thread ** spoilers ** [12th - 14th December 2023]
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Soldato
If McTominaldo dosnt score we seemed doomed of late.
Caporegime
Glad we're not in Europa. We need less games with the way we're picking up injuries this season.
Soldato
Last in the group, that takes some doing 
Caporegime
Bayern's defence is just so good. KMJ is incredible and Upamecano was fantastic tonight as were the two fullbacks. Then in front of them they've got Kimmich one of the best DM's in football.
We aren't as good as Bayern Munich... I am shocked, shocked I tell you.
Is there a single player in our squad you'd pick over that Bayern XI? Maybe Bruno when he's got his shooting boots on but not on today's performance.
We're just a mid-table team with mid-table players. Nowt's changing until we've had 3-4 more transfer windows, and I'm fine with that. We just can't sign anyone of the quality that's required as.... well why the hell would you come to united over Bayern, Real, Barca, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, even Dortmund, Spurs, Villa! It's just not a valid career move for top quality young players. We need to take chances on some youngsters and hope they come good, backed up with some experienced older heads that have had their top flight best. That's the reality.
Is there a single player in our squad you'd pick over that Bayern XI? Maybe Bruno when he's got his shooting boots on but not on today's performance.
We're just a mid-table team with mid-table players. Nowt's changing until we've had 3-4 more transfer windows, and I'm fine with that. We just can't sign anyone of the quality that's required as.... well why the hell would you come to united over Bayern, Real, Barca, Liverpool, Arsenal, City, even Dortmund, Spurs, Villa! It's just not a valid career move for top quality young players. We need to take chances on some youngsters and hope they come good, backed up with some experienced older heads that have had their top flight best. That's the reality.
When does it become sackable? United need an overhaul on top of the one ETH has made a complete mess of.
Caporegime
When there is another option out there that is better. Pointless sacking a manager just for the hell of it. No other available manager is coming in and doing any better.
It isnt pointless sacking a manager that appears to have lost the dressing room and has made a complete mess of recruitment.
As for another option that is better, what credentials does ETH have to rate him higher then anyone else in the PL?
What's that going to achieve? Nothing - start all over again, with the same group of players.
United didn't go out tonight - they were poor across the whole 6 games. Scored 12 goals across 6 games.... Any other time you would be fine with that and progress.
Injuries are part of it, but ultimately FAR to many passengers in the squad that continue to survive on ridiculous contracts, and have been there under Jose/Van Gaal/Ole/ETH and yet still the managers keep getting the blame for the poor performances.
Who's your pick for manager - realistically - Who is going to United with the mess of that club at the moment.....
NOT who's better than ETH - give me a realistic target.....
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Caporegime
Nothing suggests he's lost the dressing room, did you even watch the game? Players aren't downing tools at all (apart from Sancho) Recruitment is not on him, that is the fault of the club not putting the right structure in place forcing him to do it by himself. Hiring a new manager doesn't fix that.
Where did I say I rate him higher than anyone else in the PL?
gareth southgate to utd after the euros
Please, he'd already have his chums Maguire, Mount and Rashford there. They could sign Conor Gallagher too.
When there is another option whos better...quite a few in the PL alone, take your pick. As for losing the dressing room, i mean theres countless stories, leaks to the press, Sancho etc. Its hardly harmony in there is it.
It isnt on him...but it is....what? United have signed his targets based on his recommendations and theyve spent a lot doing it. ETH is so far out of his depth its ridiculous.
Caporegime
There is not a single PL manager outside of Klopp perhaps that could do a job at this club with the way it is run currently. I don't think even Pep could do anything without the structure behind him.
Sancho etc....so Sancho. That isn't losing the dressing room. It's one spoilt brat who refuses to say sorry.
How is it hard to understand? What other club has the manager entirely in charge of recruitment? Changing manager's isn't fixing that is it? We'd just have another manager not getting the support he needs. Do you think RDZ would have done even half the job he has without Brighton's fantastic recruitment team?
If you think we should sack him who should replace him? What is your plan if that is what you think is the best thing to do?
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Youre claiming the recruitment isnt on ETH then claiming ETH has to do it himself. Your claims are absolutely laughable. Should there be a recruitment team or at least a better one in place? No doubt but the idea that your dire recruitment isnt on ETH is just mad. They are literally his recommendations, he's the manager ffs
No, not just Sancho. You've had media outlets banned from the club because of leaked stories of unrest.
"its one spoilt brat that refuses to say sorry" I think considering the player ETH was going to allow back into the fold this just doesnt wash does it. ETH is an absolute fraud.