UEFA Champions/Europa League Group Stage Draw 27/28 August 2015

We are capable of Beating Bayern. Did it at their place not long ago.

When the result hasn't been out of reach we have been absolutely thrashed in recent seasons. Winning games when the other team doesn't care is meaningless, winning when the tie is up for grabs matters and we got utterly ripped to shreds by Barca, Bayern a pretty weak Milan.

Are we capable of beating these teams when so far down they gave up, sure, have we beaten any of them when it actually matters... not even remotely close.
 
Not a bad draw for them tbh, Juventus aren't the same team this year as last after losing so many players.

Could still be very dangerous though - City need to learn how to be clinical in Europe, or it could still be a dangerous group to be in

(still some dangerous teams in pots 3 & 4)

Believe DM. Think back to the day when Barca were expected to thrash us at the Emirates and we stunned them. It can happen.

all well and good until you decide on kamikaze defending against a nothing team....... and "lose" the points you won against Barca (or who ever else)
 
Exactly. Arsenal love to do well when it doesn't matter. End of the season when they can't win the league, against top teams when the tie is already beyond them. City did the same to barca a while ago when barca didn't need a result and had stuck a few past city anyway.
 
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