UEFA Champions/Europa League Group Stage Draw 27/28 August 2015
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Chelsea got it far easier (and to be fair so did Atletico imo)
I dont think any of Utd's games will be easy as such
The change in the seedings help some groups and hinder others
Of course they got an easier draw, they're the PL Champions so were in the top pot!
Being in the top pot away from Barca, Bayern, PSG & Juventus had nothing to do with Chelsea getting an easier draw?
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To be fair the other teams in Chelsea's group probably think they have the easier English team as well 
Being in the top pot away from Barca, Bayern, PSG & Juventus had nothing to do with Chelsea getting an easier draw?
were talking about the 2nd/3rd/4th choices in your group not fact Chelsea avoided barca etc
face it Chelsea have the easier 2nd/3rd/and 4th choices
I said Chelsea have an easier draw.
The other English teams have a harder draw because they all have a team from Pot 1, Chelsea don't so their '2nd' team was always going to be easier.
I doubt there's much between any of the teams in Pot 3 or 4.
The other English teams have a harder draw because they all have a team from Pot 1, Chelsea don't so their '2nd' team was always going to be easier.
I doubt there's much between any of the teams in Pot 3 or 4.
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Wolfsburg and Borussia M both beat Bayern last year(Wolfsburg did the double), to suggest there isn't much between the teams in pot 3 or 4 is completely ridiculous.
Wolfsburg and Borussia M I would say were stronger than some of the teams in Pot 2, some of the teams in pot 4 are going to be genuinely terrible in comparison to other teams in pot 3 or 4. Right now I'd say Wolfsburg would definitely give Chelsea a game and certainly had a good chance of winning while Bate or Astana would almost certainly lose and hell even Utd I wouldn't put money on beating Chelsea.
There is a monumental difference in quality of the teams throughout pot 2, 3 and 4.
Wolfsburg and Borussia M I would say were stronger than some of the teams in Pot 2, some of the teams in pot 4 are going to be genuinely terrible in comparison to other teams in pot 3 or 4. Right now I'd say Wolfsburg would definitely give Chelsea a game and certainly had a good chance of winning while Bate or Astana would almost certainly lose and hell even Utd I wouldn't put money on beating Chelsea.
There is a monumental difference in quality of the teams throughout pot 2, 3 and 4.
To be fair the other teams in Chelsea's group probably think they have the easier English team as well
Especially when they see how far they have to travel (miles):
9,192 - Chelsea
5,894 - Arsenal
5,455 - Manchester United
4,856 - Manchester City
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Celtic definitely got one of the hardest groups! Group H looks rather difficult too. Having browsed all the teams though, I think it's Liverpool's to lose! They should be able to run away with this... However, it remains to be seen whether Man City inevitably enters as 3rd place losers from the UCL 
That doesnt actually matter as in there were nasty / difficult teams in all the pots
Real & Atletico in pot B, Sevilla/Roma/Olympiakos in Pot C, and Wolfsburg in Pod D
Ok so some of those combinations wouldnt have happened (three spanish teams) - but you could still have gotten a much tougher draw while still being in the top pot
Its also hard to argue that PSV, Zenit and Benfica arent a step down from Barca, PSG & bayern to say the least. Cant really say everyone in Pot A are equally good, they plainly arent
Especially when they see how far they have to travel (miles):
9,192 - Chelsea
5,894 - Arsenal
5,455 - Manchester United
4,856 - Manchester City
To be fair I pointed out the travelling aspect as being the hardest part of your draw in my first /second post
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