Really don't think anyone here needs a copy of the champions league winners.
What made real strong was the depth, they had James, Morata, Pepe and Danilo who could come in and all perform exceptionally well (except Danilo who was a bit of a disaster) they have been replaced by young talents who are not trusted. They had the ability to carve out results despite playing terrible football, this year they look tired, frustrated and they lack depth. Let's also not forget the atrocious refereeing vs Bayern.
But as I said, Juve are still a strong team, they shouldn't have gotten past spurs tbh - they were outplayed for long stretches but at the same time, spurs also outplayed and beat real so either you want to include history or not. In a 1 off game, i'd put real as faves - over 2 legs I think Juve can pinch it. Hopefully anyway
What makes this years CL a bit different is that no team is massively above the rest, arguments can be made for any of barca (slight notch above because of Messi) real, city, bayern and pool.