UEFA Champions League 2010/11 Matchday 6 *** Spoilers ***

DanH84 said:
So you doubt any decision against them would have affected the outcomes of any of the matches they were in but are quite happy to state they were robbed when looking at decisions that should have gone for them.

As long as you've clearly framed your argument.
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Barca finished 5 points ahead of the 3rd place side in their group, beat Stuggart 5-1 and Arsenal 6-3. I seriously doubt the odd decision would have affected the outcome those games.

Feel free to come up with decisions that would have had any impact on those outcomes though.

edit: and to make it clear. I was simply saying that every side gets the odd decision now and then, however given how comfortably Barca progressed to the semi's, it was unlikely that it was down to poor decisions in their favour.
 
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Weebull said:
I'll be crossing every part of my body in the hope of getting Schalke. Bayern are a very strong team, regardless of their form this season, and whilst I think we could have them or Real, at our best, we're nowhere near that standard at the moment. Barcelona will tear us apart.

Remember how we got to the final four years ago winning like every round 1-0 on aggregate? Couldn't see us doing anything like that now, could you.
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This is where Arsenal were, if we were really contenders for the league, and the champions league and the cup, we shouldn't fear ANYONE. Back as the invincibles, even an away game at Barca didn't seem a problem, not a certain win, but not a certain loss. I fully agree I hope we get the worst team possible, because we simply won't win against anyone good, defensively we're a shambles and offensively not good enough(though of all the big teams Pique is the most shambolic joke of a CB around) to break down great teams.

This season we're in it to get as far as possible to get as much cash as possible, nothing more or less. Thats where Arsenal are going wrong, can you imagine ending up in the Europa crap while Spurs go on to a money making knockout Champs league game though. I find it hilarious we're at the top, only takes Chelsea being around 10-12 points worse off than at the same point last year, and Utd to not play their game to get there.

Is there any news coming out of Italy anyway, Benitez can't keep his job for long can he, only watched a bit but heard from the commentary that Inter were just totally pathetic, even if some people were rested, it was the commitment and attitude that was supposedly awful, and thats been the same with the "first team" players playing.
 
BaZ87 said:
The best reply you could come up with? :o ;)

Of course you can't guarantee Barca would have scored the pens, however they were wrongly denied at least 2 excellent opportunities to score (I'm pretty sure there was a 2nd penalty not given in the 2nd leg), as well as the wrongly disallowed goal and wrongly allowed goal that went against them.
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Maybe they were to obcessed to get to the final and inter just had a dream, that alone make me feel Inter were worthy winners over the 2 legs
 
sunnysingh said:
Maybe they were to obcessed to get to the final and inter just had a dream, that alone make me feel Inter were worthy winners over the 2 legs
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Ahhh, that's sweet. Actually no, that's just gay :p

Back to the original point, all I was saying is that if Barca play like they have been recently, I can't see them getting beat without some serious back luck/decisions. When they're at their best they're in a totally different league to any other side in Europe.
 
BaZ87 said:
Ahhh, that's sweet. Actually no, that's just gay :p

Back to the original point, all I was saying is that if Barca play like they have been recently, I can't see them getting beat without some serious back luck/decisions. When they're at their best they're in a totally different league to any other side in Europe.
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That wasn't meant as a joke, for all we could know the mind games played could have been a factor in the downfall of barca. I agree its hard to pick a team who can compete with barca over 2 legs. They are looking good, let's just see what happens.
 
Didn't Sergio Busquets act disgracefully to get Stankovic sent off in the 2nd leg of that semi final? Meaning Inter had no choice but to sit in front of goal and hack anything away that they could?

Barca get as much luck as the next team. Inter deserved to win the Champions League last season.


Hard to have sympathy with Barcelona :p
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;17954793 said:
Didn't Sergio Busquets act disgracefully to get Stankovic sent off in the 2nd leg of that semi final? Meaning Inter had no choice but to sit in front of goal and hack anything away that they could?

Barca get as much luck as the next team. Inter deserved to win the Champions League last season.
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Yeh he got motta sent off, that changed the whole game. That made the win even more special because of playin with 10 men.
 
[ASSE]Hinchy;17954793 said:
Didn't Sergio Busquets act disgracefully to get Stankovic sent off in the 2nd leg of that semi final? Meaning Inter had no choice but to sit in front of goal and hack anything away that they could?

Barca get as much luck as the next team. Inter deserved to win the Champions League last season.


Hard to have sympathy with Barcelona :p
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He acted like a **** and it shouldn't have been a straight red, but it deserved to be a 2nd booking (he was already on a yellow).

As I said earlier, Barca had a similar amount of luck in getting past Chelsea the season before so in that respect I agree. However in the tie against Inter they were robbed.

And again, the point I was making was simply that if Barca are at their best it's going to take something like what happened against Inter for them to get beat.
 
In summary I'm saying that for Barca to get beat while playing the way they are, it's going to take divine intervention or some shocking decisions.

This wasn't meant to become a debate about how worth winners Inter were.
 
BaZ87 said:
In summary I'm saying that for Barca to get beat while playing the way they are, it's going to take divine intervention or some shocking decisions.

This wasn't meant to become a debate about how worth winners Inter were.
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They're fantastic and all, but they've conceded goals in the champs league against not very good teams before, and last season. Likewise, sure great result against Real, but at home and they've had the fear factor advantage over Real, aswell as experience and Real literally handed it to them on a plate, Barca really weren't "that" good, there wasn't really a truly stunning goal in the game, it was pass, break offside trap, have a million years with a one on one, finish easily, and they screwed up half a dozen identical chances.

Almeria was it, just gifted them a win, when other teams play them, on home turf, neutral stadiums Barcelona are thoroughly beatable. Infact like Inter last year, they rather ran out of idea's, and up against solid defences(the few times they have been up against them) they'd had some trouble braking down good teams, there are just barely any great defences in La Liga. Then theres the simple factor, teams go in and out of form.

Last year, they rather cheated(and would have won easily without cheating) all the way to getting knocked out. Alves and Busquets tried to get people sent off constantly throughout the entire tournament, Alves in particular was the single worst diver in the competition and threw himself to ground constantly, while also kicking out quite often. Iniesta's started his change into a fairly prolific diver last season aswell.
 
Eatchipz said:
I have to say Anderson is starting to look like a great player the past few games I have seen him in.

Carrick on the other hand...pack your bags mate!
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Guess you didnt watch the Carling Cup game then!!!!

(wasnt all his fault by any means but still)

Carrick had a pretty decent game - and if you want to blame him for the goal (which should have been saved by Amos) then I hope you are slaughtering Rooney for the same reason, as he did exactly the same thing a few minutes earlier and it was only by fortune that Valencia didnt score on that occasion

Nani was pretty terrible most of the game - Berba couldnt get anything right

Rafael, Fabio, Park and Ando all did pretty well (Rafael and Fabio kept on falling over but they recovered pretty well on most occasions)

Well done to Spurs for topping their group also - now they just need to sort out their defence :)

Robert1986 said:
LEARN THE GOD DAMN OFFSIDE RULE BERBA! LEARN IT!
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imo Berba had a few dodgy calls for offside against him last night (admittedly I remember at least one which shouldnt have happened but even so)
 
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Not Champions league but did anyone see the Leyton Orient Droylsdon game? 2-2 at full time, 8-2 to Orient after full time! Droylsdon were 2-0 up too
 
Andybtsn said:
Not Champions league but did anyone see the Leyton Orient Droylsdon game? 2-2 at full time, 8-2 to Orient after full time! Droylsdon were 2-0 up too
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Ended with nine men a side too! Mental.

EDIT: But then, no-one cares about a Manchester non-league team if they're not called FC Ooh Look At Us We're Angry Boo Glazers Green & Gold Scarf and Replica Top United
 
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