UEFA Champions League/Europa League 20/21/22 November *** Spoilers ***
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Exactly - and they still have to confirm 1st place, so it wont be a dead rubber in the last game, should make it an interesting game
Celtic will also have to rely on Barca beating Benfica while they beat Spartak to go through (and will Barca put out anything like their 1st team with 1st place already confirmed.....)
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Im a Juve fan delighted with that win must say, i was never worried for the result as u could see from the 1st game Chelsea were outplayed.
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Giovinco absolute pace abuse!
Good finish but what was the goalie doing?
A draw gives Shakhtar top spot and is enough for Juve to qualify. What's the odds on a goalless draw?
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First London team to win the CL and possibly the first team who are holders to never qualify past the 1st round?
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Completely forgot we were playing 
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Playing like they are, I just can't see them winning any of those games. Oscar was rubbish tonight, he's almost always rubbish, sure he'll do some fancy run but scoring in an open goal from far out when the ball bounces perfectly for you is some way from dominating a game over 90 mins.
Why they loaned out Lakuku I will never know, without Drogba they have no focal point, as much as people like to mock Torres, and his finishing has been woeful. His interplay hasn't been bad, at all, he's brought others into the game and though he looks like a girl, he's well able to shoulder barge people and out muscle people when running with the ball. Generally speaking Oscar/Mata are weak on the ball, they won't win many headers, they won't out muscle a CB very often. They desparately miss Drogba, and letting him go was a monumental mistake, but to lose him then send out your only other domineering striker is insane.
They had zero presence upfront tonight, Hazard/Mata had no one to pass the ball into making runs beyond the defence, or anyone they could pass it to who could hold it then pass it back as they make a run in behind. Juve, had their finishing been better and he with a long name that I won't try to spell been less utterly selfish, they'd have run out far more than 3-0 winners, far far more.
The new right back they got, looks hopeless defensively and offered next to nothing offensively, Cole isn't anywhere near his form from the end of last season, Luiz/Cahill get beaten far too often, Ivanovic is a beast though.
Ramirez, they kept banging on about how good he is, again, yet he did very little.
They've left themselves no choice but to play Torres, they are much better with him playing because he makes runs and has strength no one else they can play has. If they can recall Lakuku, they really should, or should they get Falcao in Jan, he could be the missing piece of the puzzle. Hazard and Mata can be brilliant, but they need someone brilliant in the middle who plays differently, to play off. Torres is the best they've got, but Falcao would be massively better.
Thing is, if they managed to get Falcao, and qualify for the next stage, they'd be a very much stronger team to play in the next round with a striker who can make any team his *****.
No real need to laugh at them for winning last year and doing well this year. it was an emergency paper over the cracks job by RDM, had he gone all out attack as he's been playing this year.... last season... they'd have been eaten alive. In rebuilding into an offensive team trying to play great football rather than fluke a defensive based win.... you've got a massive change in the team, and expecting them to win playing an entirely different brand of football is just daft. Few teams that win the champs league try and play a completely different type of football the next year, and by few, I mean none.
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Would be a travesty considering Hughes is still in the job...
Stunning result for Juve, 3-0. Chelsea need a helping hand from Shaktar in the final group game...hilarious if Chelsea dont even get past the group stage seeing as they won the CL last season. Probably more hilarious than City not getting past the group stage for the 2nd yr running
For all the talk of Hughes at QPR being sacked, i reckon RDM could very well be the first one out of a job if Chelsea dont qualify for the 2nd round of the CL. Never rated RDM at all, he took over a team last season and just let them get on with it. This season hes shown that hes just as tactically inept as Mancini and Hughes.
For all the talk of Hughes at QPR being sacked, i reckon RDM could very well be the first one out of a job if Chelsea dont qualify for the 2nd round of the CL. Never rated RDM at all, he took over a team last season and just let them get on with it. This season hes shown that hes just as tactically inept as Mancini and Hughes
.Celtic require a draw if Barca win
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In reference to that game William looks proper handy doesn't he, I figured he was just another Vágner Love when all the hype around him started but his goals in this seasons UCL suggest otherwise. Not too sure what his natural position is but I wouldn't been keen on the idea of Chelsea signing him....
Was watching the highlights of that game and i have to say very very poor from Shaktar, then whats even more stupid is that after the goal, at the kick off, instead of letting Nordsjaelland score to even it up, one of their players kicks the ball away and they go and score again :/
Like i said shocking stuff from Shaktar and very poor sportsmanship. But equally the ref was a useless muppet who didnt do anything about that goal.
I think Willian is another not quite a winger attacking midfield/forward, so realistically how would Chelsea accommodate him with Oscar, Mata, Hazard, Moses and Marin? Also De Bruyne is doing extremely well at Werder so is expected to come back to Chelsea.