UEFA Champions League/Europa League 5/6/7 April *** Spoilers ***

[guyfawkes5]

Zhirkov was looking at the ball, at most it was a yellow.

What has where Zhirkov was looking got to do with how dangerous and reckless a tackle it is?

 

[Shamikebab]

to be fair to Torres he didnt look for the pen imo

Well other than diving for it of course, once he realised that he had no chance he didn't claim for it...but he did dive for it.

 

[Dabbles]

What has where Zhirkov was looking got to do with how dangerous and reckless a tackle it is?

Intent to injure an opponent, obviously.

 

[Shamikebab]

So if Zhirkov is looking elsewhere and catches Hernandez in the eye....it's still not a red

It was very dangerous, whether he was looking or not.

 

[FrankJH]

Surely a dangerous challenge though? Would have said it was as dangerous as all these two footed lunges we see.

very dangerous imo, red should have been

Essien should have a yellow for that late one om Rooney early on

 

[GiT]

Adrian Chiles is a clown. Comes out with stupid comments, and gutted Lamps is boning Bleakley.

 

[guyfawkes5]

Going a bit far there! He only had his eye on the ball. He didn't mean to kick an opponent in the face, he was only trying to play the ball and made a mistake, getting a (deserved) yellow card in the process.

I'm sure a lot of two-legged challenges were 'trying to play the ball' too; bottom line is reckless and dangerous tackles can get a red regardless of 'intention'.

to be fair to Torres he didnt look for the pen imo

Erm, because he realised he failed horribly, had the United defence ****ing him out of it for being a diving ****, and stood to get a yellow if he remained on the ground and actually looked for it as opposed to just trying to brush it off as a 'stumble'?

 

[FrankJH]

Well other than diving for it of course, once he realised that he had no chance he didn't claim for it...but he did dive for it.

he went down easily yes but wasnt a dive imo

 

[JamesU2005]

So it's a Schalke vs Barca final then

 

[guyfawkes5]

Intent to injure an opponent, obviously.

So if Vidic studs Torres' neck in a crowded penalty area without looking at him, he shouldn't get a card since he showed a lack of 'intent'?

 

[Shamikebab]

he went down easily yes but wasnt a dive imo

What

There was no contact and he threw himself in the air! Perhaps he saw a mouse?

 

[guyfawkes5]

he went down easily yes but wasnt a dive imo

I suppose you often spontaneously fall to the floor while running in a straight line then.

 

[Dabbles]

So if Zhirkov is looking elsewhere and catches Hernandez in the eye....it's still not a red

It was very dangerous, whether he was looking or not.

If he catches him in the eye, he would be red-carded, I'm sure. The fact is, he didn't.

 

[Dabbles]

So if Vidic studs Torres' neck in a crowded penalty area without looking at him, he shouldn't get a card since he showed a lack of 'intent'?

When did that happen?

 

[Shamikebab]

If he catches him in the eye, he would be red-carded, I'm sure. The fact is, he didn't.

So what about these reds that players are getting for two footed tackles when they got the ball?

Fact is it's a dangerous challenge, a player shouldn't have to get injured for there to be punishment.

 

[Shamikebab]

When did that happen?

Does the word hypothetical exist to you

 

[Dabbles]

I'm sure a lot of two-legged challenges were 'trying to play the ball' too; bottom line is reckless and dangerous tackles can get a red regardless of 'intention'.

I suppose, to an extent. Slightly different scenarios though.

 

[guyfawkes5]

If he catches him in the eye, he would be red-carded, I'm sure. The fact is, he didn't.

So only once you see a shattered eye-socket or gouged eye he should get a red... you should take your ideas to FIFA.

 

[FrankJH]

What

There was no contact and he threw himself in the air! Perhaps he saw a mouse?

I thought there was at shoulder level, with Vidic being firm rather than committing a foul , how I aaw it anyway

 

[One More Solo]

Good first half but we need to put far more pressure on the ball in wide areas. Constantly crossing to Torres and Drogba for 90 minutes will eventually result in a goal, despite Rio and Vida doing well so far.