UEFA Euro 2012 - Group B - ** spoilers ** (Denmark, Germany, Holland, Portugal)

Holland lack a leader and a decent defender. Someone like Koeman at the heart of defence would've made a big difference to this team.

Would've given Greece a good chance of upsetting Portugal but they'll walk through the Czechs :(
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Holland lack a leader and a decent defender. Someone like Koeman at the heart of defence would've made a big difference to this team.

Would've given Greece a good chance of upsetting Portugal but they'll walk through the Czechs :(
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Not just a leader but they lack heart. There appears to be no belief and will to win. Talent alone never gets them anything.
 
Bendtner did well again and Denmark did well in spells but like Russia didn't learn, substitutions and starting line up cost them the game. The Russian striker who was abysmal but kept getting started, Erikson was utterly useless in all the games and the midfield Poulsen was horrific against Portugal and now against Germany.

THing is in a game like that they took off effectively the defensive midfielder, then they conceded a goal to a lazy lazy ass Poulsen who took over those duties, who then got subbed largely because he so pathetically left Bender go beyond him, he was ahead of him and if he kept going there would have been no goal. If they didn't start him or rightly subbed Poulsen and left the other guy on, probably no goal. Then you have the penalty which would have put it 2-1, and Germany down to 10 men.

Denmark have the weakest squad and played the furthest beyond what they were capable of, performed well while everyone else underperformed, really wanted to see them go through.

Bendtner was excellent in all 3 games, if that was a planned corner setup it was brilliant. Pinpoint corner to Bendtner, Bendtner heads into a specific place in the goal and 4 players all made runs starting elsewhere to the point they knew Bendtner was going to put the ball, excellent corner.

Holland, looked like a team with no leaders. Sneijder before the tournament said something to the press along the lines of "we have no chance as no one is working together", its a team of players who don't get along, won't play with each other, don't work well together and basically suck..... look at France at the world cup, a squad that distinctly didn't get on with each other, absolute meltdown. Holland asked for it, and got what they deserved.
 
Holland were terrible tonight, the way they played, defence almost non exsistence, they deserved to lose.

Drunkenmaster: Couldn't agree more with your comments on Holland

Bert van Marwijk will be looking for a new job tomorrow.
 
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drunkenmaster said:
Bendtner did well again and Denmark did well in spells but like Russia didn't learn, substitutions and starting line up cost them the game. The Russian striker who was abysmal but kept getting started, Erikson was utterly useless in all the games and the midfield Poulsen was horrific against Portugal and now against Germany.

THing is in a game like that they took off effectively the defensive midfielder, then they conceded a goal to a lazy lazy ass Poulsen who took over those duties, who then got subbed largely because he so pathetically left Bender go beyond him, he was ahead of him and if he kept going there would have been no goal. If they didn't start him or rightly subbed Poulsen and left the other guy on, probably no goal. Then you have the penalty which would have put it 2-1, and Germany down to 10 men.

Denmark have the weakest squad and played the furthest beyond what they were capable of, performed well while everyone else underperformed, really wanted to see them go through.

Bendtner was excellent in all 3 games, if that was a planned corner setup it was brilliant. Pinpoint corner to Bendtner, Bendtner heads into a specific place in the goal and 4 players all made runs starting elsewhere to the point they knew Bendtner was going to put the ball, excellent corner.
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Bendtner is such a massively overrated player. Other than heading the ball on for Krohn-Dehli, and get fouled (when he looked like he wasn't going to score anyhow) he did little of any note in attack. He just seems to expect the ball to be fed to him. If it isn't he's pretty useless - he doesn't take the ball round people, move very well or have the ability to shoot!
 
timebomb26 said:
RVP was awful, but no matter how good you are you can't always do everything yourself. You need the team around you to play well as well. Ronaldo had a great game today mainly because the whole team played well.
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Thats true but he had enough chances created for him in the other 2 games.
He'd have given Holland a much better foundation heading into the final game.
 
Monkey Puzzle said:
Bendtner is such a massively overrated player. Other than heading the ball on for Krohn-Dehli, and get fouled (when he looked like he wasn't going to score anyhow) he did little of any note in attack. He just seems to expect the ball to be fed to him. If it isn't he's pretty useless - he doesn't take the ball round people, move very well or have the ability to shoot!
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hahaha, overrated, really, lol. He's one of the most underrated players in the EPL at the moment, ever, no one(but me) likes him whatsoever.

As for expecting to be fed the ball, I'm not really sure which player doesn't. He moves all over, fills in at defence, was asked/forced to play wing for Arsenal which he did excellently many times over two seasons. His distribution was immense over all three games. The amount of times he got the ball in a tight space around the box, stepped into space, looked for the pass and played someone in running down the right or inbehind on the right was unbelievable. Each time it led to a cross/corner/attack and a couple times these led directly to the goal.

His first goal in the second game involved, heading down a long ball directly to a team mate, running into space, receiving a pass on the way, again moving into space, spotting the run and passing it out wide to the only player with space and running forwards, turned and ran into the box, and got on the end of a ball to score the goal. He was involved in every important part of the build up and finished it.

He both does have the ability to shoot, but really wasn't played in behind, nor given the ball at any time to shoot(or shoot when there were better options like a pass), and his movement is god damned excellent. He's slow and huge, expecting him to go around players at pace like Messi or Ronaldo is to ignore what type of player he is.

The only reason that he didn't do a whole lot for long portions of all three games was simple Denmark making little to no effort to get forward or give him the ball. When they did both they created goals and he was involved in 3 out of the four goals they scored, scoring 2, assisting one and being hugely involved in the build up for the ones he scored as well.
 
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