UFC 116: Lesnar vs. Carwin (Sat, July 3rd 2010)

Brock surprised me after taking the beating that he took in the first, to come back and submit Carwin.

Carwin obviously doesn't train for the fight going out of the first by the looks of it and unless that changes he could be in trouble in the future as well.

The Bonnar fight was great and he really is a nutcase, just loves to get claret all over his face.

Akiyama v Leben was a great fight as well, both going for it from the first bell, I'd love to see a rematch.

An above average UFC event for me.
 
What a fight, I really thought it was going to be all over in the first.

I dont think it should have been stopped most of those punches didnt really seem to land a great deal and brock was still moving and covering up.

Fights have been stopped for less but not always correctly.

The Cain vs Brock fight I'm looking forward to (cain vs carwin would be epic!)

The Bonnar fight was pretty damn good as well surprised he made it through first round after eating some rather large punches and appeared to be quite rocked.

Kurt fight was also pretty damn good I swear they were both out cold on their feet and their brains just told them to keep swinging lol was something else!
 
Don't think you can blame Carwin for gassing out, he was doing everything he could possibly do to finish that fight, three minutes of dropping solid bombs will gas out anybody, think he should have realised that when he didnt get the stoppage after the first minute that he would have been better off to back off and regroup - but then again nobody has been able to take his Ground and Pound previously, and it looked to me like Brock was a beaten man midway through the first.

I'm worried about Bonnar in all honesty - all these wars are really going to catch up with him sooner rather than later, and my god he is a prime candidate for dementia pugilista, all those shots over the years, not good.

I'm surprised at how well Leben handled Sexyama, still amazed. Think Akiyama would have been better using his judo to get the fight to the ground and keep it there instead of trying to trade with Leben strike for strike.

George Sotorororoororpoulousouslus looked fantastic again, his stand up keeps getting better and better and his ground game is scary. Kurt did all he could but he was simply outclassed.

Gutted about the Brown result, although I think it was his fault gassing out his arms in the first when he was going for that D'arce choke.

In my opinion, best UFC event I've seen in a long time, card of the year so far for sure.
 
Im a big fan of "George Sotorororoororpoulousouslus" hes one of the stand out fighters to me, every fight he seems to improve nicely and as said his ground game is very impressive!
 
i was on nights last night and managed to get finished early so walked in just as the first fight finished and i must say its one of the best UFC events ive watched, not a single dull fight.

and im happy brock won although it was a hell of a beating in the first round, from the start of the second carwin looked ready to pass out.

also nice to see a lot of wrestlers there to support lesnar - stone cold, the rock, goldberg, jim ross and paul heyman... the undertaker was also rumoured to be there. takes me back to the classic times when wwf ruled.
 
Great fight. Carwin will go away from this realising he can't end every fight in the first. He'll come back a better fighter. He just had nothing left in the second. Although Lesnar put up a great fight and deserved to win, I still prefer Carwin and his hands of semtex.

I'm hoping Carwin comes back as a five round fighter, and I think he needed a loss to open his eyes a bit.
 
Just rewatched it and I tried to count the punches thrown and those that landed when Brock was on the floor, its quite hard as Carwin was throwing a lot in a short space.

I got it to roughly 100 thrown and out of that I made it like 30ish that actually landed/made it through brocks defense. A bunch of them are when Carwins arms appear to be fully extended or a very short punch so not going to have a massive amount of power or land cleanly.

I think being a title fight it made the difference you have to be 100% sure when a belt is on the line, Machida vs Shogun fight 1 is proof of this.

Its very difficult to see what punches actually make it through, he covers up and does kick out or push away when Carwin stops his flurry.

I think it was the right decision, saying that if it wasnt for a belt I have a feeling it could have been stopped a bit before.

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I would like to point out how skinny Brock's legs appear to the rest of him, end of first when he has Carwin against the cage they look so skinny! Surprised they can hold him up.
 
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my knowledge of mma rules and such are quite limited but having watched since ufc 100 and watching many previous cards covering /turtling up usually results in a tko.
 
Why should he have? Lesnar wasn't out, he was still in control of his body and defending. The fact that he came back to win shows the referee made a good decision.

We will have to agree to disagree then as I feel the referee should be kicked in the balls continuously for a fortnight for being a useless ****.
 
We will have to agree to disagree then as I feel the referee should be kicked in the balls continuously for a fortnight for being a useless ****.

I'm guessing you don't understand the concept of intelligently defending yourself? Lesnar was covering up, many of Carwins shots were not getting through. Lesnar was using his hips well and even throwing a few strikes from the bottom.

Hopefully Josh Rosenthal will referee some big fights in the future as I have no doubt the likes of Mazagatti would have stopped it as soon as Lesnar hit the deck.

I can't see Cain Velasquez beating Lesnar and think he will top the division for a long time.
 
I think 90% of the time the fight would have been stopped, I don't think Lesnar was actually intelligently defending himself during the early part of that storm, he turtled up and he was taking shot after shot after shot. They may have been hitting his arms, but there were enough getting through and nothing coming back that you could easily justify a stoppage. There was a similar late stoppage when Frank Mir was taking shots, and it didnt do him any favours. Well done to Rosenthal for letting it go, as I think when everything is on the line like that you have to give a bit of leeway, but if thats not Brock Lesnar vs Shane Carwin, say its Joe Stevenson and Kenny Florian or something, then that would have been stopped!

If anybody cares, here is a link to all Brocks old WWE mates being interviewed after the fight, what surprises me is how much all of them seem to like Brock - as I was under the impression that nobody could really like Brock. - http://sherdognet.craveonline.com/index.php#http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swnM_VaXRbA
 
The Ultimate Fighting Championship handed out two Fight of the Night awards for first time at UFC 116 for in-Octagon performances with bonus checks worth $75,000.

The UFC 116 bonus awards went to Gerald Harris, Brock Lesnar, Chris Leben, Yoshihiro Akiyama, Stephan Bonnar and Krzysztof Soszynski.

For the first time in UFC history two Fight of the Night awards were handed down, going to Chris Leben and Yoshihiro Akiyama for their UFC 116 war that ended with Leben securing a triangle choke in the waning seconds of the bout to pull out the short notice win over the Japanese star.

The second Fight of the Night bonus check was given to Stephan Bonnar and Krzysztof Soszynski for their rematch that out did their first meeting at UFC 110 in February.

“The Ultimate Fighter” season one finalist, Bonnar, pulled out a technical knockout win follow a well-place knee in the second round, pulling out a much needed victory coming off a three-fight losing streak.

Knockout of the Night honors went to Gerald Harris for his third-round knockout slam victory over David Branch.

Submission of the Night bonus money was awarded to Brock Lesnar for his second round submission over Shane Carwin in the main event via arm triangle choke.

Total bonus money awarded following UFC 116 was $450,000.

mmaweekly.

It's an insult to Chris Lytle, Brock getting the sub of the night. Lytle's was way more impressive and slick.
 
He was lying their like a wounded animal not fighting back! It should have been stopped.

If he had rolled over into foetal position then ok I agree, it should have een stopped. But he didn't, he was on his back covering up, pushing away and even throwing some punches when carwins flurrys stopped.
He could still see and clearly wasn't too badly affected as he rolled him, got up and put him against the cage.

Excellent 1st round though, carwins fists rock! We already knew that though.

R5Rich - I thought the same, his legs are tiny in comparison to the rest of him!
 
We will have to agree to disagree then as I feel the referee should be kicked in the balls continuously for a fortnight for being a useless ****.

I disagree with you here, Lesnar was never rocked or even close to being out. If any of the shots landed solidly he would have plenty of swelling on his face, which he didn't, he just had a couple of small cuts.

Carwin either was overwhelmed by the occasion and blew himself out too soon or wasn't trained properly to go 5 rounds.

I really don't think it was close to being stopped.

Watch it again with the sound muted and watch how many shots cleanly land without Rogan and Goldberg shouting and screaming about how "Brock is hurt" and "Carwin is just teeing off"
 
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It's an insult to Chris Lytle, Brock getting the sub of the night. Lytle's was way more impressive and slick.

Theres a big different between subbing Matt Brown (and I'm a huge Matt Brown fan) who has been subbed previously and has also been in a lot of deep submissions in fights that he has bounced back and won, than there is in subbing the previously undefeated Shame Carwin.
 
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