Uk's largest DVD piracy operation discovered in Leyton

neoboy said:
But if they didn't have the alternative of buying a pirate copy they would buy the original, so in a way you could argue that some profit is lost.
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He just made the point - they just wouldn't buy it at all.

I know I don't buy new DVDs, £14 is a joke imo, which is why my DVD collection is comprised solely of older films, or stuff that was on offer.
 
mattbrown91 said:
£1,700,000 a week, if they sold each disc for a £20 each that'd be a lot of sales :eek:
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£20 a film? :eek: more like a fiver with photo quality covers and printed disc.

I've heard.


:p
 
He just made the point - they just wouldn't buy it at all.
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It's quite an assumption to make that everyone who buys pirated discs isn't interested in the product at all and just does it for the hell of it.
 
neoboy said:
It's quite an assumption to make that everyone who buys pirated discs isn't interested in the product at all and just does it for the hell of it.
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Scenario :

Theres Bob over there, he's got everything in his boot.
"I'm after Ice Age 2"
"yup, genuine copies here for £12.99"
"Stuff that"

or

"I'm after Ice Age 2"
"Yup, its a cam but its quite good, £2.50"
"Go on then"

I think you'll find this is how the majority of the pirate buying public buy their merchandise.

or what I'd prefer -
"I'm after Ice Age 2"
"yup, genuine copies for £5 or a cam for £2.50"
"I'll take the genuine one please".
 
It is the case indeed most of the time, but let's say Bob is anticipating "Doom of Half-life 14" game to be released. He knows he can put it on preorder for let's say £30 and he's got the money but at the same time he knows he can pop down his local car boot sale and buy it for a fiver and then keep the £25 to buy him something else. Thus the company will miss out on his money.
 
neoboy said:
It is the case indeed most of the time, but let's say Bob is anticipating "Doom of Half-life 14" game to be released. He knows he can put it on preorder for let's say £30 and he's got the money but at the same time he knows he can pop down his local car boot sale and buy it for a fiver and then keep the £25 to buy him something else. Thus the company will miss out on his money.
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all depends on what kind of game it is in my experience, most of the people i know, if the game has features (such as online multiplay) they will buy it, but if not they wont have any problem in buying it.

as for the music business, music DVD's = buy all the time
CD's now this is a weird one, quite often they get borrowed from friends and put onto the MP3 player, which i know is still legally wrong, but i dont think i have any pirate CD's anywhere, if i want the CD i'll buy it!
 
I used to work on a building site and a Chinese girl used to come round every week with a bag full at £5 each - she would take orders for any current, recent or soon to be released film. These sort of operations are usually run by organised crime gangs - in this case Chinese/HK triads who used illegal immigrants to produce and distribute them.

It doesn't surprise me it was found in Leyton :D
 
mattbrown91 said:
£1,700,000 a week, if they sold each disc for a £20 each that'd be a lot of sales :eek:
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That's probably the price that the estimate is based on. Although the "going rate" for a pirate film tends to be £4-5, so the estimate may be out by a similar factor.
 
Dont get me wrong, i think the movie companies over charge, but at the end of the day this is not a small operation and there must be a significant amount of money involved, these are not amateurs.

If they were allowed to continue, it wouldnt be long untill nobody (except the pirates) bought pukka copies. Unfortunately there is a lot of real crime out there and this is a real crime (but so is price and market fixing)
 
When i'm at home I generally go to the cinema once a week. Therefore nobody should be bothered if I download anything.

Majority of people buying pirate CDs don't even think they can obtain them themselves.


In reality, the industry isn't bothered about piracy. If organisations like RIAA didn't tell them things were being pirated, they wouldn't even know or think they were losing potential sales.

I agree with what the general opinion in this thread is, that nobody would buy stuff if they couldn't download it.




Although, i'm about to buy a book, because i couldn't find it online ... but i was strongly considering buying it anyway, because it sounds great.
 
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