underage mothers

Borris, i have not tried to missrepresent your post, you did that with mine, when i said mentally and finincialy, it was in the terms of a child, who is seen as not mentally equiped to raise a child and is not financial able to care for one either, so read properly before you try to turn my posts around, you miss read and took the wrong idea, that may in part be due to bad wording in my post, but never the less, i in no way ment mentally ill people or those on low income, a child is below both, does not have the mental capacity to understand or properly decide their actions and is not financialy able to care for a child, thus should not be allowed to have a child, is that clear enough for you !

All i am trying to get a cross is that we are paying for children that should not be born, morally or legally, a child should not be giving birth to a child. As i said in an earlier post, abortion is only one option, the other is that the pregnant childs parent should be held responsible as its is partly their fault for not monitoring their child properly or not caring enough to keep their child from doing things they should not be doing. The problem is, most these parents come from the same up brining and thus the cycle insuse.
 
All i am trying to get a cross is that we are paying for children that should not be born, morally or legally, a child should not be giving birth to a child.
Isn't a 'child' just a definition our society has placed on individual under the age of 12/14/16/17/18/21/pick a convenient age.

If a 'child' is able to bear a child to term, isn't that perhaps an indication that our social rules are out of sync with what our bodies are saying?
 
Rich_L said:
Isn't a 'child' just a definition our society has placed on individual under the age of 12/14/16/17/18/21/pick a convenient age.

If a 'child' is able to bear a child to term, isn't that perhaps an indication that our social rules are out of sync with what our bodies are saying?

In my opinion, a child is someone that is unable to get a legal job ( not including paper and milk runs), purchase or rent accomodation, and legally bound to go to school.
I.E. 16 or under.
 
I think someone touched on this earlier: the teenage pregnancy rate varies wildly across the UK. 20 per 1000 in Rutland but 100 per 1000 (ie. 1 in 10) in Lambeth, according to official government\NHS statistics.
 
sr4470 said:
I think someone touched on this earlier: the teenage pregnancy rate varies wildly across the UK. 20 per 1000 in Rutland but 100 per 1000 (ie. 1 in 10) in Lambeth, according to official government\NHS statistics.

Southwark has the Highest rate in SE London followed by Lewisham iirc.
 
Rich_L said:
If a 'child' is able to bear a child to term, isn't that perhaps an indication that our social rules are out of sync with what our bodies are saying?

But puberty is happening at an earlier age than ever, I'm sure I read studies from the states which reports on 8 year old girls starting to have the decorators round.

This isn't a natual evolution, its the chemical and hormone stuffed food they are eating. But also if we go back 100 or 200 years, we were leaving scholl at around 12 and getting jobs, we only lived to our mid 40's and parents were usually in there teens.

We should just give all 12 year olds portalble DVD players and let them watch cartoons all day. Take there mind of making whoopy.
 
UKDTweak said:
Borris, i have not tried to missrepresent your post, you did that with mine, when i said mentally and finincialy, it was in the terms of a child, who is seen as not mentally equiped to raise a child and is not financial able to care for one either, so read properly before you try to turn my posts around, you miss read and took the wrong idea, that may in part be due to bad wording in my post, but never the less, i in no way ment mentally ill people or those on low income, a child is below both, does not have the mental capacity to understand or properly decide their actions and is not financialy able to care for a child, thus should not be allowed to have a child, is that clear enough for you !
I can only go by what you write - My intarweb mindreader is switched off for the moment.

If you want your ideas to be beyond interpretation, you need to remove all vestiges of ambiguity - It's hard for me to misrepresent you when, by your own admission, you misrepresented yourself from the offset.
UKDTweak said:
Anybody that is not in a position to care for themselves mentaly or financialy, should not be allowed to have children, just because they can, does not give them the right too, especially if others have to pay for it.
That's fairly concrete if you ask me.

UKDTweak said:
All i am trying to get a cross is that we are paying for children that should not be born, morally or legally, a child should not be giving birth to a child. As i said in an earlier post, abortion is only one option, the other is that the pregnant childs parent should be held responsible as its is partly their fault for not monitoring their child properly or not caring enough to keep their child from doing things they should not be doing. The problem is, most these parents come from the same up brining and thus the cycle insuse.
What makes you the arbiter of all that is moral and legal?

As stated previously, there is nothing illegal about under 16s being pregnant or having children, as distasteful as it might sound.

State sponsored forceable termination is surely one of the most immoral, repugnant ideas around.

I won't disagree with the accountability of the parents (now grand parents) of the child (now mother), as they play as much of a role in their education as the satte does, in providing the necessary framework and infrastructure.
 
Borris, calm down, if you are not sure about something, ask....


And try looking up the word Opinion, which i have used several times in posts before... Hmmm ;)
 
UKDTweak said:
Borris, calm down, if you are not sure about something, ask....
What makes you think that I am anything other than calm?

UKDTweak said:
And try looking up the word Opinion, which i have used several times in posts before... Hmmm ;)
Not until post 66 in this thread, if F3 is anything to go by.

Besides, depite the right to an opinion being implicit, the use of "in my opinion" to qualify a post does mitigate obdurately repugnant sentiment.
 
Buh!, big word...... runs.

Seriously, im only expressing my opinion, i in no way say it is the way to go, the correct way of doing things, it is simply how i would like to see things done, if i sound cruel or unkind, thats just the way i am in such cases as i hate the human race and think the world would be a better place without humans, who in reality are just evolved parasites..

chew on that ! LOL
 
Remember guys, it takes two to tango.

How many young and/or underage mothers are having to bring up a kid on their own because the git of a boyfriend decided to leave them do it and leg it?

Should draw a court order forcing the father to take 50% responsability for his kid. Too many young mothers lumbered with babies and no help.

IMO, OMFG, YMMV, ETC.
 
Cueball said:
Remember guys, it takes two to tango.

How many young and/or underage mothers are having to bring up a kid on their own because the git of a boyfriend decided to leave them do it and leg it?

Should draw a court order forcing the father to take 50% responsability for his kid. Too many young mothers lumbered with babies and no help.

IMO, OMFG, YMMV, ETC.

I would suspect this hasnt come up because most or all of the people posting in this thread thus far are male.
 
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