Allready OC the CPU to 5ghz all cores and ram is running on XMP 3600mhz cl17.
Do you think i would be able to pull more gpu usage out if i bought 2x8 4600mhz, as thats is max for my mobo
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Underperforming 3080 OC - Please help
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Allready OC the CPU to 5ghz all cores and ram is running on XMP 3600mhz cl17.
Do you think i would be able to pull more gpu usage out if i bought 2x8 4600mhz, as thats is max for my mobo
Ye the frame chaser guy really knows how to tune computer.. But im only interrested in high GPU usage so that i actually use the full potentiale of my gpu..
He has a consult where he tunes your computer but for 500 dollars.. ive spent 1 year to save up for a 3080 OC as they are extremly expensive in denmark, so unfortunatley i cant afford to pay 500 dollars for the help.. Thats why i try everything to get help atm.. Really appreciate alle the ansewers
Im not trying to beat anyone at all, before i had a 2070 super and it basicly ran almost the same numbers as my new 3080 OC. My goal is basicly just to get as high gpu usage so i get what i paid for.. i have a 240hz screen so if i could get as close to 240 FPS that would be my dream..
If i forexampel push the render resolution to 140% (1440p) instead of 100% i get a bit higher GPU usage, but i rather get more fps with the same settings.
If i watch other peopel on youtube playing different games their gpu is like 98+ constantly
Bear in mind cranking up the power like you have wont necessarily add performance.
XMP mode usually bumps voltages.
You added to the already high 3080 power limit. Didnt undervolt.
Overclocked CPU.
You may well be hitting TDP or thermal limits somewhere as well. If the GPU cannot handle the +200 mem clock, error correction might also be slowing you down.
XMP mode usually bumps voltages.
You added to the already high 3080 power limit. Didnt undervolt.
Overclocked CPU.
You may well be hitting TDP or thermal limits somewhere as well. If the GPU cannot handle the +200 mem clock, error correction might also be slowing you down.
My CPU is only at around 40% - 50% usage -- overlay pic below with CPU and GPU times etc..
https://imgur.com/gallery/NRCw1UP
https://imgur.com/gallery/JSTv1eb
https://imgur.com/gallery/Jb5A0Ko
i know the fps is a but high but im standing still but the CPU and GPU usage is low..
Normally i get around 140 - 160+ while moving around
Temps is not an issue as im only hitting 60 degress at max
Soldato
What RAM do you have, can it not pushed anymore? I think pushing the RAM (timings as well as speed) or having better stuff will increase your minimum FPS in Warzone but probably not much else. Personally I do not think it's worth buying a new kit if you are already getting 160+
Some games, probably a lot in fact just won't have their engine set up to be able to use the CPU threaded well enough to max out a really powerful GPU at 1080p. You could up the render scale a bit to improve visuals instead?
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The overlay doesn't show all the CPU cores so it doesn't mean anything. Can you show the utilisation of all 8 cores to see if any are at 100%?
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Ah sorry missed that.
Enable Dynamic super resolution scaling in the Nvidia control panel (3D settings > DSR factors > tick the boxes (or up the resolution scale in game if supported) and try running the same games with these revised settings (DSR will basically make higher resolutions available in game, i.e. DSR of 4x will allow for 3840x2160 to be selectable within the games resolutions options).
If your GPU usage goes up and/or you see no change in framerate it confirms it is just the CPU being the bottleneck at 1080p.
Should also be noted that CPU usage of 40-50% could still mean individual cores are being maxed out even if the whole CPU is not being used - essentially highlighting the single core performance is holding things back. A 5Ghz 10700K is in no way a bad CPU, but it may be holding back a 3080 in certain scenarios - such as 1080p.
If your GPU usage goes up and/or you see no change in framerate it confirms it is just the CPU being the bottleneck at 1080p.
Should also be noted that CPU usage of 40-50% could still mean individual cores are being maxed out even if the whole CPU is not being used - essentially highlighting the single core performance is holding things back. A 5Ghz 10700K is in no way a bad CPU, but it may be holding back a 3080 in certain scenarios - such as 1080p.
The reason I say to use a benchmark, is because you often get a number that you can compare to other users, comparing FPS and usage is really not an exact science, as already said above. Also note that some engines actually have an FPS limit.
I have kingston 3600 mhz cl17 XMP ON - https://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/KF436C17BBK2_16.pdf
Honestly i have never learned how to manual push timings etc on memory, always just turned XMP on to avoid any stability issues, since i have no knowlegde other than XMP
Yes ofc.. here is 2 taking on different times ingame..The dip at the end is when i tab out to print screen.. since i only got 1 monitor..
https://imgur.com/gallery/87Zxza0
https://imgur.com/gallery/JHvQsWd
Hmm am i doing this correctly cause this seems to be my threads or ?
Please tell me if you need another pic or this is correct..
This actually might be really good explanation.. since i just took these 2 screenshots.
https://imgur.com/gallery/87Zxza0
https://imgur.com/gallery/JHvQsWd
These are taken while playing on 1080p tho.. Just got home from work. tomorrow i will try upscale to 2k and 4k to see the difference and upload..
I have tried to upscale to 1440p and the GPU usage goes up a bit, but no difference on FPS..
So a possibility is that i might need a better CPU to utilize more performance of the GPU, since 1 of my threads seems to be at almost 100% while gaming.. therefore the GPU is holding back because the CPU cant process anymore data (bottleneck)
I know the Warzone game have a fps limiter at 300 FPS.. ive seen some big streamers pushing stable 260+ fps at good resolution and settings..
i only benchmarked with 3D mark..
Do you by any chance know some game benchmarks i could have any benefit from ?
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Windows 10 - 64 bit - paid version - newest update
Motherboard -- Asus Strix z490 F gaming - Newst Bios update
GPU -- Asus Strix 3080 OC 10 GB
CPU -- Intel i7 10700k
RAM -- Kingston 2x8 - 3600mhz cl 17 Dual Channel
Cooler -- Corsair H100i rgb Pro XT
Screen - ZOWIE XL2546K 240Hz 1080P
PSU -- Corsair 750W gold 80 plus
You only have a 10700k and 3600mhz memory friend.. don't expect miracles.
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I meant like you did in the overlay in the screenshot below. You should be able to configure the options to add CPU core so you can see the usage while playing games.
https://imgur.com/gallery/NRCw1UP
Anyway, the first thread in your task manager is hitting 100% so that's a CPU bottleneck.
while I dont think you will gain anything with 240 fps I cant for the life Of me understand why you stayed at 1080p and not 1440p changed last year and its just better
Ive tried multiple stuff the last couple os days to try spread the load on the other threads
And by going from 7 to 8 on rendered workercount ive managed to spread the load a bit, but no gain in fps or GPU usage
https://imgur.com/gallery/PqOxHur -- workercount 8 Normally set to 7 by default, not maxing out on thread 1
https://imgur.com/gallery/FFPTpG5 -- Adv file warzone
https://imgur.com/gallery/CGn4tw1-- Benchmark test shadow of the tomb
https://imgur.com/gallery/r3rZVvh -- Gpu usage while benching shadow of the tomb
https://imgur.com/gallery/gBlG889 -- Thread usage while benching shadow of the tomb
https://imgur.com/gallery/CPajMPm -- While playing rust, but im guessing since the thread is 100% its a cpu bottleneck, but only because of poor game engine..
https://imgur.com/gallery/PiVPePy -- This is in standby mode doing nothing. i have no backgrounds apps running to at. so no unnecessary cpu usage..
So you would say to get more Gpu usage i should upgrade CPU to an 12900k or wait for the new 13700k + buy some better ram, lower timings + higher mhz ?
i just bought a new screen a year ago, and indeed 1440p it better, I can always upscale in render resolution from 1080p to 1440p..
but yes would deffnetley be better to upgrade the screen at some point..
Ofc not, i just didnt thoud i would be CPU bottlenecked on this cpu running on 5,0 ghz all cores.. But seems to be the issue..
So you would say to get more Gpu usage i should upgrade CPU to an 12900k or wait for the new 13700k + buy some better ram, lower timings + higher mhz ?
Or any ideas to future upgrade to gain some higher fps and more GPU usage..
in my mind running 70% gpu usage is like buying a VERY expensive snickers bar but only eating 70% of it and throwing the rest away, if you get my point
