University lecturer?

[compboyo]

Does one need to be a post graduate in said subject to be a lecturer?

What other duties must one perform? take tutorials? Mark exams? DO research?

Or just give lectures?

 

[compboyo]

Read his posts - he can't make up his mind whether to be a manager of a football club (he plays a PC game), a porn star (he has a penis) or a ... God, I can't be bothered. Just read his nonsense and see why it's not worth your time replying to his posts in any meaningful way.

I could be a god?

 

[compboyo]

Okay, I've just seen this thread by the thread starter and I'm wondering if he's serious or just trolling somewhat.

He admits here he doesn't like working, it depresses him and then he suggests research. Sorry, research isn't some lazy easy thing where you just think for 10 minutes and then throw out some vague BS. I work in the maths research sector and I work the normal 8 hour days, sometimes evenings and even the occasional weekend. It's normal job hours. If anything if you get into research because it's on your head and no one elses it can easily bleed into the rest of your time, because if you don't do the work it's still there the next day, no one is going to pick up the slack. And if you don't do the work you get fired and replaced by someone who will, there's plenty of people who'll work hard about.

Here the thread starter has previously claimed to have won all sorts of prizes in school. So he's lazy, doesn't like work, doesn't like being away from the house, has mediocre qualifications but won loads of prizes?

Sorry, you think you're a maths whiz, so brilliant that you got bored and then went into sports science, which you did mediocre at? You're either a troll or you're just delusional. I hear the whole "I was a genius at school but no one recognized it" thing all the time from forums. It's always from people who now can't do basic algebra and always have to throw their 2 cents into a physics thread on a subject they obviously don't understand. You don't have the brain of Einstein, Einstein had a solid work ethic and stuck to it even when outside of academia. You're just lazy and not particularly bright it would seem.

If that's your attitude then unless you apply to a god awful community college and every other applicant mysteriously comes down with West Nile fever you're not going to get a lecturing job. Certainly you won't get one at a good university, as you basically admit to not having the capabilities to get the required qualifications. A PhD is more than just a demonstration you're good at the subject, it's a demonstration you can apply yourself to 3~5 years of work on the same subject and stick with it. I had to bin months of work during mine and if I'd just said "**** it, I'm giving this up!" I'd not have the PhD nor the job I got with it.

If you're too lazy to put effort in don't be surprised you have no job.

actually lets break this up...

''he doesn't like working, it depresses him and then he suggests research.''

Correct I dont like work as in based away from home performing menial tasks. however I do like to do research. Which involves studying, learning new info and writign up reports and such. I enjoy that form of 'work'


''the thread starter has previously claimed to have won all sorts of prizes in school. So he's lazy, doesn't like work, doesn't like being away from the house, has mediocre qualifications but won loads of prizes? ''


Yes I won many awards all my school life from art/drawing then to maths/ccounts/physics all whilst playing truant, being a stoner, a casual drug taker and a drug dealer, at various stages. My attendance at school was at best 70% and I would only usually go in on the afternoons or for PE.

Mediocre qualifications..NO...I have a 2.1 science degree from Edinburgh University. A,A,A,B,B at what you refer to as A levels.

Also somewhat agoraphobic so that impacts my work career and dislike for leaving the house.

''Sorry, you think you're a maths whiz, so brilliant that you got bored and then went into sports science, which you did mediocre at?''

A 2.1 degree unluckily missing out on a 1st like most off my assignments were 70% plus in the areas I was acutally interested in is not really mediocre. I got bored off physics aspects that did not involve maths hence quitting my physics course. Nothing to do with my ability. Yes it bored me.

''I hear the whole "I was a genius at school but no one recognized it" thing all the time from forums. It's always from people who now can't do basic algebra and always have to throw their 2 cents into a physics thread on a subject they obviously don't understand.''

ACtually algebra and performing equations and kinetics was my favorite part of maths/physics and what I excelled at. ONly reason I quit physics is they started to do all this space physics stuff that I hated. I only really like kinetics. Hence my thesis on biomechanics/kinematics and interest in this area.


''You're just lazy and not particularly bright it would seem.''

I am lazy but I am not dumb.

DUMBASS

 

[compboyo]

Yes, unimpressive, especially in the physics and maths community. Your pre-university results are below the average of Oxbridge students and a 2.1 from Edinburgh wouldn't even get you into the 4th year of say the Cambridge maths course, which is required for you to apply to their PhD courses in theoretical physics.

Like I said, you're a small fish in a big pond and you think you're the best thing since sliced bread. Along with not getting a world beating education you obviously missed a few life lessons.

And you are considering a job where you stand in front of hundreds of people for hours at a time?

Getting high marks doesn't make you a genius. I found A Level maths, physics and chemistry dead easy, I walked 4 As (getting multiple 100%s in all of them) but I also had an active drive in it. There's tons of people in the world who are exceedingly good at these subjects and work at it.

Part of learning is learning to work at things. Even if someone were to agree that you're book smart, which I would contend, you seem to have missed an important part of education.

Even if you are good at them being a 'could have been' counts for nothing. Hell, someone whose thick as two short planks but will work 12 hours days is better than a genius who can't be ****ed.

Yes.... 'performing equations' is an integral part of physics and maths, along with 'subtracting symbols' and 'combining graphs'.

Yes, the 'space physics stuff'. Along with the 'small physics', the 'hot physics', the 'flowing physics' and the 'swirly physics'. Funny, I don't remember those course titles at my university.

Thesis? Please elaborate.

Just to check, what is your degree in? Is it physics or is it sports science? Because there's a significant difference between those two in material and getting a 2.1 in sports science doesn't mean you could have got a 2.1 in physics.

You just can't remember the proper titles or subject material of courses you supposedly excelled at and use phrases like 'perform equations'? Seriously, myself and another maths grad friend laughed out loud at that.

I'm a professional mathematician, you really want to go down this road?

End off day mate I dont give a crap I hate work..I was just stating im not an uneducated doughball...And in terms of population easily within 5% off top humans in UK. condsider that 50% leave school 16? maybe 5% get as good A levels as me then 2% get a 2.1 + degree....In terms of adult population? I dont know the stats but Im sure they are not far off.

So I should be able to and want a decent job.

I wouldnt wanna be Issac Newton or whatever.

 

[compboyo]

Your posts would indicate otherwise.

like I say I got da persoanilty of ali g but I still got da eduational skillz son

 

[compboyo]

You may well not be uneducated, however going by your contribution to this forum and your responses to BetaNumeric you are not very intelligent.

As BetaNumeric has said, your grades are nothing special and sports science is not physics.

You are seriously outclassed compboyo so if I were you I would concede.

ermm Population wise I am very high on the education scale...How many % of people have 2.1 degree or even 5 a levels a,a,a,b,b.

Sports Science or not. I excelled 1st year physics. I changed to sports scince for pleasure. I get no kicks to boast about being clever or not clever. All I am saying is I dont want to do no menial boring mundane job. I enjoy studying and learning and hate office work and physical work.

As for what and how I type on an internet forum when Im bored and unemployed to base me off that??? Well, I think you should concede to be the dumb one.

Not that I am trying to have a competition with you. You are irrelevant. I ask about uni lecture career and now I decide it is not for me.

 

[compboyo]

If that were the case, you'd be earning more.

but

1. I hate working

2. I am agoraphobic somewhat

3. I have aspergers/autism

4. I am lazy

5. I prefer to work on my own

6. I hate being formal and work social/formal aspects

So, really that more relevant to employment than maths ability

 

[compboyo]

Troll of the century ?

maybe we have multiple personailty disorder

BetaNumeric is the new John Nash

 

[compboyo]

anyway id rather be a pornstar/rockstar than a physicist.

how boring to be an academic. Its not soemthing Id brag about. Id rather brag about my 10 incher

 

[compboyo]

Doesn't it annoy you that people who you consider to be beneath you, but have a better work ethic are earning far more and are far more successful in life in general?

Far more talented people than you have wasted countless opportunities for being lazy, so you're not special in that regard.

Laziness is a habit rather than anything inherent to "you" - fix it.

Its true but it doesnt annoy me as Im not motivated by money (though I wouldnt complain for more money), (alos I wouldn't say beneath as that is rude. they have better work ethic and social skills but arent as good at maths/study or whatever)

Like I say Im really just a hippy. as long as I got my guitar, football and video games Im happy.

 

[compboyo]

Considering I have far better A level grades than you do and several more degrees (which I gained while actually working at the same time) then I see no need to concede to your self acclaimed greatness, as comparatively speaking you are my inferior.

I too enjoy study and research, but unlike you I have decided to return to it by applying myself and actually working to gain the necessary qualifications and knowledge to do so.

This is what BetaNumeric was trying to tell you, you want to become a lecturer or a researcher, then you have to apply yourself and adjust both your attitude and work ethic.

If you do not, you will simply be another unemployable bum regardless of your claims to the contrary.

I decided i dont want to be a lectruer.

I am not saying I am great now.

In high school I was the greatest. FACT..I have the awards to prove it.

But its like the dude who was best at football at my school does not even play non-league football as an adult.

Ok some dude at another school was the best at football and plays for a premier league team. but is not C.ronaldo.

I was the best at school at a range of subjects then I went to uni but I ended up not C.ronaldo of edcuation because I didnt care. But in terms of my education i am still a premier league player not non-league.

 

[compboyo]

I've been called a lot of things in my time but sport scientist? Sir, I challenge you to a duel!

I've actually been a member here since pre-2000 under the username 'AlphaNumeric'. Look at member 21 on the forums.

You just admit to being lazy, play games all day and have no clue about jobs. Besides, education is more than just grades, particularly university. It's about growing up.

Top humans? What else do people usually compare you to where you have to add in the qualifier 'human'?

Typical A Level grades now are around BBB, so you're hardly surging ahead. Like I said before, the sort of people who do high level research battered their A Levels, not scrapped A's with a few B's.

You think you're a big fish but you don't realise just how large a gap there is between you and the people really at the top, the top 0.001%. At Cambridge for maths you can answer as many questions as you can do in the time. The top person got 3 times the amount needed for a 1st, a 1st at Cambridge in maths. That is what the top people do.

Qualifications are just part of getting a job. The company I work for requires a minimum of a PhD and we reject 199 out of 200 applicants.

Like I said, you need some life education, either to learn or to spend your time doing something other than trolling.

lol u have me all wrong.

1. I am not proclaiming to be some kind off academic big fish and would get no pleasure or joy in doing so. Id rather brag about the number of hot girls I have bedded or that I am amazing on guitar though Im not....yet

2. I got 95%+ for most of my a levels so hardly scraped by. ANd i dont say this to be ''cool'' or whatever just stating a fact.

3. My work skills/ethic suck barre my ability to pass exams/assignemts which means little in a full time job.

 

[compboyo]

As far as football analogies go, you are not even the Benny Hill of education and he never played pro football.

brign up some real stats please?

how many people leave school with no education?

How many leave after o levels?

how many sit a-level and achieve straight A's

how many fo to a top Uk university?

how many get a degree with 2.1+?

In terms of % off population..



Now we have teen mums, smackheads, construction workers, chefs, mechanics, tradesmen, office workers, drug dealers, bums etc...etc..

I think the % of people that have 2.1 degrees or above is very low.

Not proclaiming im godlike just stating a fact

 

[compboyo]

Around 50% of undergrads get a 2.1, around 11% a 1st. Around 20% of the population have a degree.
.

lmfao looooooooooooooool

20% of population ahve a degree...so 1 in 5 people have a degree!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahahhahaha


sorry but


hahahahahahahahhaha


I know at least 100+ people and I am the only one who even done highers.

Maybe cause I hang about with retards or too many drug dealers I guess?

I play football in a league and in all the teams you are lucky if one player even went to uni in any off the teams...Maybe the population off 'footballers' have low intellignece though.

but 1 in 5 people have a degree I never heard such BS in my life.

50% get at least 2.1....So 1 in 10 people in the world or UK at least has a 2.1 degree....OMG lmfao...never heard such BS

then 10% get a 1st.

so you are saying 1 in 5 people have a degree with 10% of this a 1st therefore

2% off the population have a 1st degree. This means if I approach 50 random people 1 off them will have a 1st class degree? (from a top uni?)

If I approach 5 random people, 1 off them will have a degree.

I dunno where you live but unless I walk around the uni campus I think this is extremley unlikely.

 

[compboyo]

I don't think there's much else I need to say in regard to the rest of this thread but I love the idea that there's the slightest chance that you (or indeed anyone else here) is vaguely comparable to one of the great scientists and polymaths of all time - perhaps most amusing is the implication that it's only because you don't really fancy it that you're not going to be on a level...

There are some very smart people on these forums but I think that most would acknowledge that there's a vast gulf between being pretty damn clever and being an all-time genius. In my not very vast experience the cleverest people tend to be amongst the first to recognise their limitations.

THey also say the most clever are the most socially inept.

Nom sayin hommies...hell ya. beeacth

Newton didn't get AAABB, at A-level, though.

Prob done highers tbh

 

[compboyo]

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OP : Thanks but I've just found this big spade so I think I'm going to use that.

GD : But that'll make it worse!

OP : I don't think so. I'm making good progress here! Wow, I've just found an even bigger spade! This should speed things up!

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OP : Thanks guys but I don't think that'll help. I'm just going to keep digging.

GD : DSFGDSJHGJHSDFHJKSF! <rage quit>

whos GD?

GOld Digga?

According to the Department for Innovation, Universities and Skills (DIUS), in 2007, 30.8% of all adults aged 19-59 (for women)/19-64 (for men) have a qualification at degree level or higher. This represents an increase of 5.6 percentage points since 2001 (25.2 to 30.8%), equivalent to around 1.8 million more people having Higher Education (HE) level qualifications than in 2001.

but they prob never got 99% for 1st year maths at a top uni...top marks all round...then I gave up being a nerd!!!! Thats why I am now into the guitar and the porn industry as a more exciting career option. In fact I am going to combine both careers and I will play guitar with my special unit....like Hendirx plays with his teeth this will be my signature move

 

[compboyo]

True but you probably didn't either.

well i dont care what you think it makes no difference as far as you know everything I type could be a lie...every single thing. And everything you ll type could be a lie...it is the internet we dont know nothing. So, unless I scan and paste my certificates you wont know.

but I have better things to do than prove I am a nerd lmao....

 

[compboyo]

I assume that the ability to read was a requirement at whatever university you allegedy attended?

If so you will know that I stated 20% have a degree or a professional EQUIVALENT, be that an apprenticeship or diploma. Many people have qualifications that relate to modern degrees, but were taught or gained as part of their occupation or apprenticeship or qualifications gained through a professional body such as the IEACW or ACCA.

If you also read what I said about those who attended university (not the population at large) is that around 50% of those who ATTENDED university gained a 2.1.

However, if you actually read everything I said, it is clear that I specifically referred to your peer group and to gain a true representation of where you stand overall you must weight the average taking into consideration changes over time to the education system and the relative worth and relationship those qualifications have to the peer groups of the time.

In which case, if you have the qualifications you allegedly claim (and the more you post, the more circumspect that appears) then you are around the national average when weighted for comparison.

I never said I was special within ''my educated population''...within the academic league of people I am the bottom league or mid league.

however, my point I have stated all along is in terms off the world, in terms of the people I see in the job centre I am in the premier league of education. Not the champions league but premier league.

I am looking at jobs next to people who left school at 16 with no qualifications etc....

Off course for me to apply for uni when I was 17 it was easy at that stage I could have went to cambridge or oxford. I was like a 17 year old C.ronaldo all the potential all the results, top in my country and every club wanted me....but then I done a Denilson and failed to progress despite my big transfer fee.

 

[compboyo]

I hate to break it to you, but anyone with reasonable qualifications and ability doesn't hang around the job centre looking for work, they are applying via professional recruitment agencies and industry specific routes, not generic searches through the job centre.


Given your questionable attitude and severe lack of written language skills you would not have gotten past the interview stages at either Oxford or Cambridge, if you even have the ability to complete the application and testing process.

when I was 17 I cared. I wouldnt judge me now as I were when I was 17. I am not the same person

 

[compboyo]

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champions league is the creme de la creme....this is where you get your Phd dudes, some masters dudes, your einsten dudes etc..all battling it out for the nobel da peace prize!!

then in the premier league at the top you get your Cambridge, oxford 1st class graduates, then mid table you get your top uni 2.1 graduates, battling out for relegation at the bottom off the premier league you have your 2.1 graudates from crappy unis.

Then in the championsip you have your typical 2.2 guys.

Then at the other end you have people in pub teams who aint been to school since they were 13 years old.