Upgrade now or wait?

gilljoy

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So I'm possibly looking to upgrade my current PC to go to 4k resolution (I'm eyeing up one of the alienware qd-oleds).

I've currently got

3700x
Crosshair VII Herov
16gb of terrible ram
dark rock pro 4
3080.

I'm seriously considering getting a 5800x3d to tide me over another few years but part of me is wondering should I jump to AM5 but I'm not sure if waiting for the 9000 x3d models is worth it?

Budget wise it would be for about £1k without a GPU as I'll probably wait and see what AMDs offerings are likenext gen.

Any suggestions?
 
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With that kind of budget you might as well hop onto a 7800x3d build. If your itch can wait to be scratched then wait and see what the 9800x3d brings.
5800x3d is about the same performance overall as a 7600x.
If you don't want a full rebuild then price/perf is in favour of the 5700x3d instead.
 
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Yeah I'm seriously tempted to go for that, but correct me if I'm wrong the 9000 series performs roughly the same as 7000 x3d series but with less powerd draw?

Another plus point would be getting to make the full use of my 990 Pro ssd
 
5700x3d is the more budget friendly option staying on am4 but 16gb memory is borderline these days .

Going 4k you want a 4080 super ideally unless you hold fire.

What motherboard do you have ?
 
mickyflinn said:
5700x3d is the more budget friendly option staying on am4 but 16gb memory is borderline these days .

Going 4k you want a 4080 super ideally unless you hold fire.

What motherboard do you have ?
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Crosshair VII Hero so I don't think I can even get the faster ssd support?
 
gilljoy said:
Any suggestions?
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A lot of games show nearly no increase (e.g. 0-3%) between the AM4 & AM5 X3D CPUs at 4K, some show a little bit (like 5%) and a few a lot (15-30%).

For the expense of AM5, I don't think it is worth it, though if you plan to buy 32GB of DDR4 memory I suppose it is not a bad time to switch to DDR5.

gilljoy said:
Another plus point would be getting to make the full use of my 990 Pro ssd
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PCI-E 3.0 is usually only a bottleneck when you're doing large file transfers/copies, most of the time you are not throttled by the PCIE bandwidth, especially if you're just a gamer.
 
gilljoy said:
Yeah I'm seriously tempted to go for that, but correct me if I'm wrong the 9000 series performs roughly the same as 7000 x3d series but with less powerd draw?

Another plus point would be getting to make the full use of my 990 Pro ssd
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There are no 9000x3d chips yet so no one knows.
All we can say is than the Ryzen 9000 non-x3d chips are similar in gaming performance as their 7000 counterparts. There's a small performance uplift, but not very significant .
 
Personally, the way I see it is that you are already buying a new chip and more/better ddr4 ram.
You might as well sell the lot and jump to a new platform (CPU/mobo/ddr5).
After selling the lot I suspect the upgrade cost isn't going to be much more than getting the 5700x3d and 32gb ddr4 ram.
 
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gilljoy said:
Crosshair VII Hero so I don't think I can even get the faster ssd support?
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Pcie3 in your board which isn't such a big deal in terms of speed for gaming.

So many options but unless you upgrade your GPU that's going to give you the biggest performance uplift at 4k.

 
I'd get a 5700X3D and 32GB of RAM personally, wait until next gen and put the saved money toward a 5080 or AMD equivalent.

It'd cost you all of £200-250 and I fully expect next gen GPU's to cost more than current.
 
tamzzy said:
There are no 9000x3d chips yet so no one knows.
All we can say is than the Ryzen 9000 non-x3d chips are similar in gaming performance as their 7000 counterparts. There's a small performance uplift, but not very significant .
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Oh I was comparing te 9000 counterparts to their 7000x3d counterparts.

So taking a look (I have no idea if this is a good setup or not) I can get a

Tuf B650-Plus
7800x3d
Corsair Vengenance 32gb

For £660.

I wonder how much I could recoup for my mobo, ram and CPU but if it comes close to making the new build £300ish (the price of the 5800x3d) that's mighty tempting
 
mickyflinn said:
Pcie3 in your board which isn't such a big deal in terms of speed for gaming.

So many options but unless you upgrade your GPU that's going to give you the biggest performance uplift at 4k.

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GPU is def being upgraded but holding fire until the next gen ones and probably try and get a used 4080 etc
 
gilljoy said:
I wonder how much I could recoup for my mobo, ram and CPU but if it comes close to making the new build £300ish (the price of the 5800x3d) that's mighty tempting
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There's no price checks outside the MM but I can say with near certainty you will not be getting £300 for your current bundle.
After selling your current bundle the overall outlay would probably be closer to £500 for your proposed spec.

Obvs you're paying a lot more for the 7800x3d. A better comparison is the 7600x + b650 + 32gb ddr5.
 
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Still tempting, the price of the mobo and ram would mean I have a future upgrade path vs effectively being the best the platform can get
 
gilljoy said:
Still tempting, the price of the mobo and ram would mean I have a future upgrade path vs effectively being the best the platform can get
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Depends on how often you upgrade.
As it stands the 5800x3d is basically the same performance tier as the bottom rung of Ryzen 7000 chips.
 
Usually about once every 5 years so technically I’m overdue.

Realistically I like to get my moneys worth and run the platform as long as I can
 
Well then you're in a bit of a dilemma. I've done the 3700x to 5800x3d upgrade and it's definitely well worth it. (And fwiw I've also done the sidegrade from the 5800x3d to the 7600x...just because new platform lol)

am5 will be supported to 2027, but if you upgrade every 5 years then you'll be facing the same dilemma in 2029 which is...to get the best am5 chip or to hop onto am6 or whatever is the intel equivalent.
Whereas if you were to get the 5700x3d/5800x3d then in 2029 it's a direct platform upgrade to am6/intel equivalent.
 
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