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upgrade to am3 or not (need very quick replys)

gareth170 said:
yeah that sounds good.

now i've got £257 to spend which would enable me to get a 720 instead of a 550.

or i could keep my current system and get a 965. but is that worth it?

or with the £257 it should be a enough for a 5870?
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do you really *need* to upgrade though :p all of these upgrades seem very marginal given your spec.

The only one possibly worthwhile is upgrading your gpu when the new series comes out. With respect to your memory you will notice little/no difference in speed. Im sure if you spend a little time pushing up mem clocks or tightening timings you could achieve very similar speeds anyway...
 
I fancy boys said:
do you really *need* to upgrade though :p all of these upgrades seem very marginal given your spec.

The only one possibly worthwhile is upgrading your gpu when the new series comes out. With respect to your memory you will notice little/no difference in speed. Im sure if you spend a little time pushing up mem clocks or tightening timings you could achieve very similar speeds anyway...
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in one sense no don't need to upgrade.

but i wanted to upgrade for other reasons too. one is needing more sata ports, another reason is need better layout of the pcie slots because i had to remove my dual tuner tv pcie card to have another 4850. the Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P board as a pcie x1 at the top which is great..
 
gareth170 said:
yeah that sounds good.

now i've got £257 to spend which would enable me to get a 720 instead of a 550.

or i could keep my current system and get a 965. but is that worth it?

or with the £257 it should be a enough for a 5870?
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Save another £43 and I'll give you X4 965/M4A79T Del/Noctua HSF/4GB DDR3. :D
 
even IF i buy a 965 with a Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (Socket AM3) PCI-Express DDR3 Motherboard + 2GB (1x2GB) DDR3 10666C9 1333MHz Memory Module. or OCZ Intel Titanium XMP 2GB (2x1GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C7 1600MHz , doesn't mean i'll be guaranteed to oc it to 3.7ghz+, it may only do 3.6ghz. it could be still a downgrade.. that why i thought if i get a 550 or 720 and take a chance, same with a 965 i'll still be taking a chance.

am i right??
 
No-one not under NDA knows what the performance of the 5850 will be like, but if it is the same as a GTX275 or CrossFireX'd 4850's you wouldn't get a perfomance boost - would you?

A pair of 64Gb SSDs in RAID 0 will give you a real-world speed boost, but apparently we only have to wait until next week to get the performance info on the new cards, so you don't have long to wait.
 
gareth170 said:
no.

the main reason why i was thinking of upgrade to the am3 platform is because amd will stop putting dual memory controllers in new cpu in the near future.
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Just had a quick read over the thread and I think you're a bit mad wanting to change your setup.

The whole thread seems to be based around this one point here (in your quote)? Do you actually have a source on that information because the server part Istanbul uses a DDR2 memory controller, so the 6 core AM3 part will prolly support DDR2 in some form as well, and I don't see anything else coming out on the AM3 platform past those chips because by the end of 2011 (maybe it's 2010 actually) we'll be into a new socket with Bulldozer, at which time you can prolly buy lots of DDR3 ram cheap anyway.

Right now you have a decent rig that (might) run a 6 core chip. Lets say it doesn't though, why not make your decisions then (I don't see how you lose anything by doing this because computer parts only get less in value with time [usually]), or just wait it out till end of 2011 for Bulldozer?

IMO AMD won't drop DDR2 support from AM3 CPUs because their spec says that those CPUs should run in AM2+ boards, but if you've got a concrete source on that information I'd love to see it!
 
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Pulseammo said:
Just had a quick read over the thread and I think you're a bit mad wanting to change your setup.

The whole thread seems to be based around this one point here (in your quote)? Do you actually have a source on that information because the server part Istanbul uses a DDR2 memory controller, so the 6 core AM3 part will prolly support DDR2 in some form as well, and I don't see anything else coming out on the AM3 platform past those chips because by the end of 2011 (maybe it's 2010 actually) we'll be into a new socket with Bulldozer, at which time you can prolly buy lots of DDR3 ram cheap anyway.

Right now you have a decent rig that (might) run a 6 core chip. Lets say it doesn't though, why not make your decisions then (I don't see how you lose anything by doing this because computer parts only get less in value with time [usually]), or just wait it out till end of 2011 for Bulldozer?

IMO AMD won't drop DDR2 support from AM3 CPUs because their spec says that those CPUs should run in AM2+ boards, but if you've got a concrete source on that information I'd love to see it!
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if u read over the thread u would have seen thats only 1 reason. theres other reasons too.

gareth170 said:
but i wanted to upgrade for other reasons too. one is needing more sata ports, another reason is need better layout of the pcie slots because i had to remove my dual tuner tv pcie card to have another 4850. the Gigabyte GA-MA790FXT-UD5P board as a pcie x1 at the top which is great..
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Well look on the bright side, now you only have 2 reasons, and the above was your "main" reason ;P.

Buy a SATA raid card and one of the new ATI graphics cards. So you'd have a nicely clocked Quad Core, 8gb of ram, (prolly) an extremely fast GFX card AND all the sata ports you could want.

Do you have a source on the DDR3 thing though, im genuinely interested as it says a bit about the viability of buying a DDR2 system atm.

EDIT: Just saw your link, I'll have a read and thanks :)

EDIT 2: That link doesn't discount DDR2. Like I've said in a few other threads if this 6 core desktop part is derived from Istanbul like Deneb was from its server counterpart shanghai then I don't see why they wouldn't include DDR2 support in it.
 
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Pulseammo said:
Well look on the bright side, now you only have 2 reasons, and the above was your "main" reason ;P.

Buy a SATA raid card and one of the new ATI graphics cards. So you'd have a nicely clocked Quad Core, 8gb of ram, (prolly) an extremely fast GFX card AND all the sata ports you could want.

Do you have a source on the DDR3 thing though, im genuinely interested as it says a bit about the viability of buying a DDR2 system atm.

EDIT: Just saw your link, I'll have a read and thanks :)
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i don't have enough pci or pci-e slots for a SATA raid card. thats my point. even if i buy a 58xx and a SATA raid card i won't have a slot for my dual tuner tv pcie card, i also had to remove my sound card
 
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