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Upgrading 4790K to 9700K worth it?

Again you need state your clock speed and OC it to get a nice gain if something else is not causing your issue as stuttering is not always the same as low FPS.

Anyone running a similar CPU and at stock wanting to upgrade due to FPS I would say the same ie try OC'ing the CPU.

The lower the RES the more it matter but that does not mean at 4k it does not matter.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Actually, it is exactly the gaming solution as more and more games begin using more threads in order to improve the quality of gaming . .
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I'm pretty sure this is exactly what was being said back when I had my i5 750, or if it was later not sure. That AMD was cheaper and had more cores, which would definitely be the better option since it would be better in a few years time. And then It really wasn't performing that great after a few years.
 
I'm afraid I have no idea on the 9700k but having upgraded from a 4790k to a 3700X I have noticed a massive improvement in multitasking and gaming.

Really pleased
 
krpao said:
I'm pretty sure this is exactly what was being said back when I had my i5 750, or if it was later not sure. That AMD was cheaper and had more cores, which would definitely be the better option since it would be better in a few years time. And then It really wasn't performing that great after a few years.
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That was back when DX9 was the foreseeable future. Bill gate said 64mb was all the memory we’d need.

The next console will use 16 thread Ryzen and Navi chips that should be a indication of what why the industry is going.
 
krpao said:
I know I am sort of an Intel-fanboy, but the 3700x is like on par with your 9600K in games while the 9700K is better than both. Isn't the 9700K a better choice then?
So the 3700X i better because I have the option to upgrade only the cpu later, without having to buy a new motherboard?
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In year next-gen consoles will bring 8 core/16 thread into mainstream.
That should drag last of the game developers out from "Four cores is high end" Intel stagnation era.
Advance of game development was pretty completely stalled for many many years, because Intel kept milking with that same old four cores reached in 2007!
While average lower end PC kept at miserable 2c/4t.
In that situation it just didn't make any sense for game developers to look into ways how/things for which to utilize high core counts.
Once game developers figure out ways and new things to use high core counts, then scaling it up will get easier.
Consumer space is really only area of computers where massive parallel computing hasn't been normal for many decades.

Here in this Intel CPU advance comparison Shadow of the Tomb Raider actually has 9700K momentarily reaching 100% load.
https://youtu.be/7uhXkVI64I8?t=24m43s
And doubt its code is comparable to next-gen games coming in couple years.

PC Master Race sure is no longer any master race, but more like Intel Cash Cow Race paying luxury prices for yesteryear's hardware without upgradability...
 
B450 + R5 3600, and 16GB DDR3200, for <£350 if all you are doing is playing games. Sell the current hardware and the total cost will work out about £175.

No need to buy anything more heavy duty. :)
 
snips86x said:
Then overclock it. Mine (4790k) running at 4.7ghz on an AIO and usage while gaming is around 60%. There is plenty of life in it yet so yours should last well too.
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Yeah that is probably the best option. Still it's the urge to get new stuff, and have the fun of building in a new case, and then have significantly better minimum fps in games. The difference will probably not be huge in many games while in others it can be more.
Like this example here:

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The 9700K and 3700X have a 30 and 40 fps increase for the minimum fps.

Regarding the stuttering in Battlefield V with DX12 I was experiencing, It got better in DX11. Not sure what's causing it, could it be just because I'm using DDR3 and the cpu is older?
Haha I'm just arguing to convince myself that it will be worth it, but It's good to get replies, I'll try to give it more time to think about it. Overclocking will help for sure.
 
keep your money for another year. also anyone suggesting getting a ryzen 3700x over a 9700 is dulally. the intel cpu is far superior in games. nothing from amd will compete with the performance in games period.
 
I know that but not sure if it can be due to Intel's better single threaded performance as many games now use more cores/threads and going by my reading here the claims AMD have better IPC now, any further input?
 
Yes, in general Zen2 seems to be a few % better IPC.
The only thing keeping intel ahead at 1080p gaming are clock speeds, and even then the difference is not massive.

I would much prefer to have the chip with more outright grunt that one that can do a handful of FPS more - especially as there are lots of other Intel drawbacks at the moment.
 
Overclock It. Even using a decent cooler, let's say 30 odd quid, is a valid try.
If not, Ryzen. You would be able to upgrade later on. Actual Intel platform is on it's last legs. New socket next year.
 
As others have already said, for now try overclocking the CPU to 4.5-4.7Ghz (assuming you have the cooling) and see what performance improvement that brings. You should notice a nice bump in both minimums and maximum framerates.

If you still want to upgrade after doing the above then go down the Ryzen route. Game performance is only slightly behind ignoring outliers (actually check reviews for the games you play as they perform better on one CPU vs the other which might define the route you take) but in everything else it is either on par (where clock speed matters) or ahead (where threads matter). In the latter case the 9700K specifically can't hold a candle to the 3700X.
 
right now the sweet spot is a 6 core cpu. 4 core with high clock is still more than viable but in games that use cores like bf you are at a hinderence.

3700x vs 9700 you pick the 9700 for gaming unless its just not in your budget. the thing is they are literally the same budget. so its not even a choice. so what it comes down to is what games you play. your cpu overclocked in games in probably quicker than a 3700x in most games. due to the high core clock. 9700 can do same as yours and higher and faster. so its the only one worth considering for gaming only.

most of the people saying get the 3700x will already be on a amd platform or just amd biased. there is no reason in any way for gaming to not choose the 9700 over a 3700x.
 
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