Upgrading from 5600X to 5700X3D not really worth it?

[Vertigo]

Was contemplating this upgrade for my LAN rig but, from what I can tell, it's not really worth it.

Benchmarks seem to suggest a reasonable uplift in average FPS and particularly 1% lows but this is obviously in ideal conditions at 1080p with low graphics settings to make the game in question as CPU-bound as possible.

When running with more realistic settings (1440p in my case), the margins seem to be much smaller.

Thoughts?

 

[Tetras]

What graphics card and which games? Some games show much bigger differences than others, even at higher resolutions. Racing and simulation games, or MMOs are the main ones that benefit, from what I've seen, which can even apply at 4K in some circumstances.

 

[Minstadave]

I'd be tempted personally, cost isn't huge, 2 extra cores and the increased IPC are nice.

 

[Vertigo]

What graphics card and which games? Some games show much bigger differences than others, even at higher resolutions. Racing and simulation games, or MMOs are the main ones that benefit, from what I've seen, which can even apply at 4K in some circumstances.

Original 3080 10G.

Not much cutting edge stuff tbh, loads of ancient LAN-fodder that's easy to run like L4D2 plus some more recent stuff like Dead Island 2, Tiny Tina's Wonderlands, BL3, F1 '23, Dying Light 2

 

[Vertigo]

I'd be tempted personally, cost isn't huge, 2 extra cores and the increased IPC are nice.

You're not helping!

 

[Gray2233]

Original 3080 10G.

Dying Light 2

I saw pretty big uplift going from a 3700X to a 5800X3D on a 4070 with Dying Light 2, the non super version being a tiny bit slower than the 3080. This was at both 1440P and 2560x1080, with the visual settings turned up.

For the sake of £200, then whatever you rake back from selling your current CPU? I'd say it's a decent choice to eke out another few years on AM4 before having to upgrade. You should be able to get another GPU upgrade out of the platform down the line tbh, at least to something around 4090 levels of performance or perhaps a bit faster.

 

[Vertigo]

I saw pretty big uplift going from a 3700X to a 5800X3D on a 4070 with Dying Light 2, the non super version being a tiny bit slower than the 3080.

For the sake of £200, then whatever you rake back from selling your current CPU? I'd say it's a decent choice to eke out another few years on AM4 before having to upgrade. You should be able to get another GPU upgrade out of the platform down the line tbh, at least to something around 4090 levels of performance or perhaps a bit faster.

Interesting thanks.

This is my ITX LAN rig which is only used for LAN events and weekends at friends etc so AM4 should do me for a good while yet as I'm only running 1440p and don't mind turning the settings down a bit if necessary.

 

[dave28]

not in my view, i would be looking to move to AM5 in 6 months from now instead

 

[Vertigo]

Really don't want to go through the hassle and expense of an AM5 cpu/mobo/mem replacement until I really have to.

 

[Gray2233]

Really don't want to go through the hassle and expense of an AM5 cpu/mobo/mem replacement until I really have to.

That's why I switched to a 5800X3D, albeit mid-late last year. I just couldn't be faffed with a rebuild at the time. I came close to going AM5 but it was too much effort.

I really do think the 5700X3D for around £200 is a good choice for avoiding messing around, more so with the added costs and limited options of itx motherboards.

 

[Vertigo]

My main rig is AM5. Down the road, when I upgrade that to a Zen 5 CPU, it may make sense to recycle the CPU into the LAN rig with a new mobo/mem but that'll be next year at the earliest.

 

[VonScar]

I went from 5600X to the 5800X3D. GTA V at 1080p ran smooth as butter on it. Other games, seemed to get a boost and my RTX 3070 felt like it was forced to work far harder, whereas with the 5600X, system felt less able (in some) in games.

However, the 5600X did feel snappier, in Windows 10, with an almost imperceptible slow down with the 5800X3D. The 5800X3D clocks up to about 4.3 Ghz vs the 4.6 Ghz. Oh, and 5800X3D runs hotter under my CPU cooler.

 

[jklc]

I think about going to one of the X3D chips from the 5800X sometimes but I have always held off. In hindsight I would have gone for the 5600X and saved £100 or so back in 2020. Especially since it's only ever used for gaming.

Some of the benchmarking sites "show their work" with game and exact scenes used. I remember one of the German sites even put out saves for their Cyberpunk 2077 test which was useful to see how far behind the pace my 5800X was falling in those gaming 1% stress points. A combo of g-sync, 4K and DLSS has kept me from going all out on upgrades again.

 

[SheepBeast]

Somewhat related question, would it be worth it to upgrade from a 3700X?

 

[stooeh]

Depending on price, what games you play and what FPS you are targetting it could be worith it. If you dont mind selling the old setup might be better targetting a new platform like AM5.

 

[Tetras]

Somewhat related question, would it be worth it to upgrade from a 3700X?

Low resolution gaming with a high-end card (e.g. 1080p with a 4080), competitive esports, racing & sims and MMOs: likely yes.

Graphically intensive older games (e.g. RPG) @ 4K/60 where you're not suffering from choppy lows, likely not.

 

[jigger]

Low resolution gaming with a high-end card (e.g. 1080p with a 4080), competitive esports, racing & sims and MMOs: likely yes.

Graphically intensive older games (e.g. RPG) @ 4K/60 where you're not suffering from choppy lows, likely not.

You probably would be suffering running a 3700X with an anything much faster then a 3070.

 

[kayone]

The 5800x3d is still great value and an excellent performer.

Easily worth an upgrade from 5600X IMO.

 

[ooStevo]

Deleted for lewd idiocy.

 

[FrozenShivers]

Contemplating whether to do the same or not (mines running a 4070 at 1440P), since I flapped it a year or so ago in regards to getting a 5800x3d. Seems like 5600x is worth around £70 used which would mean it wouldst be around £130 to upgrade...need to calculate roughly how much a AM5 transition will cost me and figure out what to do, argh!