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COD is biased towards AMD cards.
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Upgrading Nvidia Gefore 1080 Ti Option
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Latest cod is a little less biased towards AMD but the GRE is a great option if no interest in RT.
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Where did you ever get the idea that a 4060 anything was the way to go, anything bellow a 4070 is trash on Nvidia's latest offerings and i don't really rate the 4070 but it is capable compared to the 4060ti. If you just want pure on performance then AMD are the way to go at your budget, if you want RT then Nvidia but even then it's close enough on the average. If you then want upscaling then it's Nvidia atm. At your Budget i am going to say AMD if you are an online gamer. If you are a AAA gamer sp wise and want RT/Dlss then Nvidia. AMD will be cheaper and faster for the Rasta master but Nvidia are ahead in RT for max graphics. Pick your poison based on what you want and forget brand.
One other point Nvidia offer paltry amounts of Vram which may be enough for a bit but no peace of mind either. The 4060ti 16gb does offer the vram but the gpu chip is still sub par.
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It's actually weaker than the 3060ti in some scenarios, although niche but that's besides the point.
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I think AMD has increased there performance in Cod again my 7900xt is pretty similar to my mates 4080super at 1440. His PC is am5 7900x3d and i am still am4 on a 5800x. I just googled some results and the 7900xtx is close to the 4090. Certainly in mw1/2 AMD had a good advantage.
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More modern CoD games, Warzone especially REALLY like X3D cache from what I've seen. I'd be interested in what your results would look like with a 5800X3D.
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In some maps i average over 200 and in others 180. I have everything with blur/rt off and tessellation near, the rest Ultra preset. Been a while since i looked but pretty sure he has the same and was no happy with my xt matching his system. He's a bit of a noob and i keep forgetting to tell him to go into the bios and put his memory into xmp mode. So he might overtake me if he does that, it will still be close enough though. He can build and understand a pc but settings nah lol. Thought about an x3d but got my 5800x for £150 and will do me until i decide i need a new platform.
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Usually where I see issues with similar hardware it's the lows and jitter. Every time I've seen that from someone with your kind of hardware they've been on Nvidia GPU's. It makes me wonder how bad that driver overhead is, it's why I'm legitimately interested in seeing someone with a similar GPU with an X3D chip.
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Nvidia wrote a lot into there driver for dx11 and relied on it to handle those games. It worked a treat at the time. AMD on dx11 just relied on the hardware without anything that drastically changed the driver. At the time i always thought fine wine was more about the forward looking hardware than massive driver improvements. On dx12 the AMD approach is an advantage but on dx11 Nvidia's approach was the way to go. I am putting it basic from what i have read as i don't fully understand it. I know dx12/Mantle/Vulkan can use the hardware more efficiently to get more out but would imagine Nvidia already have that in mind for a few gens now. AMD dx11 wise were hampering themselves at the time.
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Yeah there is NO way that Nvidia could let that continue tbf, I'm certain that it drove a HELL of a lot of XT and XTX sales at launch for AMD (hence the improvement on Nvidia cards).
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Last I looked, CoD seems to favour AMD...
For the top end of the budget you could maybe find a cheap-ish 7800XT, but if you can stretch the extra £100 then I'd personally go for the 7900GRE Pulse (I have 7900XT pulse and it's a great card/cooler, but I would have gone 7900GRE for 150 quid cheaper, all day long!)
(edit: I don't play CoD, but in general, that's what I'd go for
Most recent benchmark I can find shows 7800XT above 4070ti in CoD - possibly VRAM limited - https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-...0-in-call-of-duty-mw3-and-costs-half-as-much/ )
For the top end of the budget you could maybe find a cheap-ish 7800XT, but if you can stretch the extra £100 then I'd personally go for the 7900GRE Pulse (I have 7900XT pulse and it's a great card/cooler, but I would have gone 7900GRE for 150 quid cheaper, all day long!)
(edit: I don't play CoD, but in general, that's what I'd go for
Most recent benchmark I can find shows 7800XT above 4070ti in CoD - possibly VRAM limited - https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amds-...0-in-call-of-duty-mw3-and-costs-half-as-much/ )
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The advantage is still there in MW3. This is from February:
Another from the end of last year:
Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 тест GPU/CPU | Action / FPS / TPS | TEST GPU
Мы выполнили тестирование релизной версии Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3 на наивысших параметрах графики, на видеокартах
I would look around for deals on the RX7700XT and RX6800 when they dip below £400.
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Unfortunately it was inevitable with how Nvidia branded and sold what's essentially 4050 and 4050ti as 4060 and 4060ti...
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Tbf I did say improvement, the gap isn't so massive anymore from what I've seen (esp on the 4080S/4090).
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Yeah, that was aimed at OP, not your comment above mine
I was
I was gonna chip in with an opinion,but I've got a GT1030. Let me know when you guys catch up.
I would not get a 4060ti, not much of an upgrade tbh. You can sell you 1080ti for £100 and put that on the £450 gives you £550ish and then look at for a second had rtx 4070ti it should be possible for £550-£650 mark or even an RX 7900xt or 7900GRE as suggested by someone else. I would aim for these cards.
do you have access to members market? some good deals on there sometimes.
do you have access to members market? some good deals on there sometimes.
The 4060ti is actually slower than the 3060ti in some niche scenarios, it's an awful card and absolutely not worth the money.
For added context, the 3060ti sits between the 2080 and 2080S in terms of performance.
You're looking at extremely minor uplift, the minimum consideration from a 1080ti should be a 4070S or 7800XT/7900GRE in my opinion.
So what is that.... 3 gens without any real upgrade path? That's really not good when you think about it. But at the same time you can't really blame the GPU makers. Isn't it a fact that nm is coming to an end? Also,how can the 4060ti be slower than the 3060ti? Doesn't the 4060 have more cores and faster memory?
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