Brand new AMD 16gb 6800s are £360. Tiny smidgen faster than a £400 AMD 7700xt. There is only a 5 watt difference. So unless you need the video codec support on the newer gen card. Or a specific need for cuda, then you just wouldn't go 4060ti.
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Upgrading Nvidia Gefore 1080 Ti Option
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Brand new AMD 16gb 6800s are £360. Tiny smidgen faster than a £400 AMD 7700xt. There is only a 5 watt difference. So unless you need the video codec support on the newer gen card. Or a specific need for cuda, then you just wouldn't go 4060ti.
The 4060ti has a 128 bit memory bus compared to the 3060ti's 256 bit, among other differences. This makes it weaker in certain situations, various applications and games are worse off for it. Emulation as an example is better on the 3060ti. Nv essentially took the successor to the 3050 and bumped it up a tier, it's really a 4050.
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It has less of everything (die is half the size) except for faster memory and a bigger L2 cache (8x the 3060 Ti), because it has to address the performance loss of halving the bus width.
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Problem is that it has less feature support. Look at something like Alan Wake 2 as a prime example. Until recently this had awful performance on hardware without support for mesh shaders. This was obviously a terrible decision and they've since improved performance for those without, but do you want to be in that situation when that game you really want to play releases with some other issue?
The same kind of thing will happen with Ray tracing as we move forward.
Without affordable upgrade paths for those on legacy hardware both things will happen:
- People will exit PC gaming.
- Adoption of new hardware features will slow down
New customers may enter the market and purchase new low/mid range cards, but retention will drop while prices remain so high.
Think one the problems here is that the games that been released over that time frame have not pushed the hardware like new games used too years ago
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Some of the newer games do, but you need a higher-end PC to have worse graphics than the old games that worked fine with the 1080 Ti.
If Ray Tracing isn’t a key requirement then AMD outperforms most equivalent nVidia cards in rasterisation performance. Check out Hardware Unboxed on YouTube as they just released a GPU ranking for 2024.
7800XT vs 4070
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For COD:MW the 7800XT kills the 4070 and actually on par with a 4070 Super. If you can get it for less than £500 then it's a no brainer. Far better than a 4060Ti.
7800XT vs 4070 Super
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This RTX 4070 Super review focuses on a detailed comparison with the closest priced GPU from AMD- the RX 7800 XT. Which GPU should you buy- the RX 7800 XT or...
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For COD:MW the 7800XT kills the 4070 and actually on par with a 4070 Super. If you can get it for less than £500 then it's a no brainer. Far better than a 4060Ti.
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7900GRE should be better again if the op can stretch. Especially if they don't mind oc'ing, there's a solid chance of stock 7900XT performance.7800XT vs 4070
7800XT vs 4070 Super
RTX 4070 Super vs RX 7800 XT: The Ultimate Comparison!!!
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For COD:MW the 7800XT kills the 4070 and actually on par with a 4070 Super. If you can get it for less than £500 then it's a no brainer. Far better than a 4060Ti.
I've seen some go for close to £500.
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You are right...The 7900GRE is the better deal at £529.99.
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God,£530 for a gfx card, that's about 4th tier or something? No wonder consoles are so popular. Has it always been this way? My first 'proper' gaming card was a 4400ti,and I only got that by accident. I paid £90 for a fully refurbished pc and that was in there along with CD-RW drive and all the trimmings. When I booted up Far Cry my mates were huddled round saying "look at the graphics man!"Great time for me 
They had PS2 I think at the time.
They had PS2 I think at the time.
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God,£530 for a gfx card, that's about 4th tier or something? No wonder consoles are so popular. Has it always been this way? My first 'proper' gaming card was a 4400ti,and I only got that by accident. I paid £90 for a fully refurbished pc and that was in there along with CD-RW drive and all the trimmings. When I booted up Far Cry my mates were huddled round saying "look at the graphics man!"Great time for me
Far from it.
The initial entry cost was a little high, but my first PC (that wasn't a family related thing I could use) was an Athlon Thunderbird 800mhz with 128mb ram and a Geforce 2 MX400 which came to around £800-1000 and included a monitor and peripherals. I was in high school at the time, and when going through college I was able to upgrade my GPU three times from saving up from odd jobs/paper round type stuff.
My Geforce 3 ti200 cost me in the region of £100. (Premium card, albeit lower tier for the era but could match higher end with OC)
My Geforce 4 ti4200 cost me around £120ish, and I was ridiculously lucky when the card I got was a ti4400 instead. (Same as the above)
At this point I had a friend who worked in a local comp' hardware store that notified me of a 9500 non PRO with the L shaped memory, meaning it could be modded into a 9700. Again around the £100ish mark. (The 9700 Pro was the top GPU available when launched)
I also recollect years later (2007 or so) getting very solid mid range cards in the form of the ATI 3850, and Nvidia had the 8800GT for similar at the £100-150 range.
What we're dealing with now is a mixture of inflation and the companies that we're stuck with taking the pee.
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I enjoy hearing these stories. No sarcasm I really do. I also bought a HD3850, although the cooler was awful,so I bought an arctic freezer with clip on fans. I couldn't work out how to get the fans fitted so I just ran it with the heatsink lol. The 3850 was on sale for about 50 quid or something from ***elsewhere***. Upgraded from a XFX 8600gt. Those were the days man.
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The 'refurbished' pc was from an Ad I saw in Micro Mart. I drove to some industrial warehouse type deal,and it looked awful lol. I ended up with either 512 or 768mb ram along with the 4400ti, CD-RW,a pentium 4 extreme (lol) and they even installed Windows XP while I waited. That was the first time I got really interested in pc technology. They hadn't installed any drivers, even no sound drivers,so I had to search myself for them. I had no idea what I was looking for,or even what I was doing, but I loved learning and it Got me addicted straight away. I miss those times.
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