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upgrading processor help/advise needed

hi Eddie, just been googling the ram which appears to be patriot viper. does look like its sold in a pack of 3 (6gb - 3x2gb)

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are you saying that really i should run this in a m/b designed with 3 slots? or remove 1 chip and only run 2? or if i find a 4th chip would this solve the issue? i could buy another 3 pack then sell 2 chips as spare.
i only paid £20ish for the 6gb pack, maybe i should sell it and get some ram that comes as a 4 pack ??
 
are you saying that really i should run this in a m/b designed with 3 slots? or remove 1 chip and only run 2? or if i find a 4th chip would this solve the issue? i could buy another 3 pack then sell 2 chips as spare.

(Apologies in advance for the long answer!)

Most motherboards have the option to run RAM in "dual channel" which means they're making simultaneous requests to 2 RAM chips at a time, thus doubling your memory access rate. Expensive i7 boards have triple channel, thus... well, tripling it :)

In practise, there can be slight differences between memory chips of the same model, same way that CPUs, even from the same batch, can be different overclockers. When sold in double or triple packs, it's guaranteed not to have significant differences, and to work perfectly as a pair/trio (unless it's OCZ, in which case there's a good chance it's broken long before you open the box :P)

With your motherboard, you can run 2x dual channels, which means it would optimally like a matched pair for channel A, and a matched pair for channel B. Your manual will tell you whether A means "both red slots" or "one black one red" :) (You don't have to ensure all 4 are a perfect match, as long as the ones on the same channel are.)

Your current problem is twofold:

1) With 3 sticks in that motherboard, you can't run dual channel (because 3 does not divide by 2), so your memory throughput will be lower. In all fairness, the extra capacity is more than worth the loss of dual channel if you max out 4GB regularly.

2) If you drop a 4th stick of 2GB in, then you'll have channel A operating a properly matched pair, and channel B operating a mismatched pair. It might work. It also might not. I don't actually want to suggest either way, because sod's law says I'll chose the wrong option - just want you to know the possibility exists for it to go either way!


TLDR:
If you aren't happy with 6GB in single channel mode (which will be perfectly stable and usable - don't fix what ain't broke, etc!), then given how cheap you got the pack of 3, my thoughts would be to shelve 1 of those sticks, leaving 2 of them in memory channel A, and buy another 2x pack for channel B. They don't have to be the same brand, just the same speed/CAS ratings, which in this case is 1600MHz, 9-9-9-24.

Compatible products from OCUK:
G.Skill RipjawsX 2x2GB (I personally favour these because... well, I have some, and they're nice and solid.)
Corsair XMS3 2x2GB
Corsair Vengeance 2x2GB

You could also use a 2x4GB set (e.g. these) and have 12GB total. I do this myself, works fine and happy and is a lovely large amount of RAM for a photoshopper :)
 
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sorry for the late reply so is having 4 sticks of dual channel more effective of 3 sticks of tri channel? im assuming all tri channel ram will only come in a pack of 3.

im assuming if a want 4 sticks of 4gb (12 gb) i will have to go for dual channel?
 
First off, 4 sticks of 4GB is 16GB, not 12. Secondly, you don't automatically make a motherboard tri-channel if you put three sticks of RAM in. The board is either dual-channel or single-channel and you can't change that.
 
seems like Asus or Asrock are the Z68 favourites atm, with MSI not far behind :D

iirc, that specific gigabyte board doesnt have 2 of the z68 features, cant remember which ones though.
 
An I missing something here?

Why are people recommending processors and motherboards to someone who bought an i7 2600K with an Asrock Fatal1ty P67 Motherboard in July?

The only current issue I can see from reading through the thread is that the OP has 3 sticks of RAM in a dual channel system.
 
Personally I would buy this, and see if it works with the other 1600MHz C9 sticks (more than likely it will work).

If it doesn't, sell the lot and get a proper 2x4GB kit like this. If you do plan on adding more RAM in the future then buying this £45 8GB kit is an even better idea since it is high density (4GB per module) so you can add another kit into the empty slots and reach 16GB (with your existing 2GB modules you will need to sell up before you can push past 8GB).
 
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yeah that would look good with my m/b so question... why do they sell ram in a 3 chip bundle 3 x 2gb chips if they should work in pairs?

yeah i think im gonna sell my existing ram and get 2 bundles of 2x4gb chips. and have 16gb total
 
They sell the 3x stick kits specifically for the X58 board like these.

These boards are last gen (so the quad core CPUs are not as fast as sandy bridge) but they use triple channel memory mode (compared to s1155 boards which only support up to dual channel mode). With these X58 boards you want multiple of three to maintain triple channel mode - so you will see kits of three or six sticks.

However, these kits are not ideal for dual channel systems like s1155 since you don't get the right number of sticks to get dual channel mode (although the sticks themselves are identical to the sticks in the comparable dual channel kit).
 
They all support the hybrid BIOS. It was a thing that Intel said every 1155 board must have.

If you only need the only need boot configuration and temperature warnings, would you not save a lot of money going for a H67 board?
 
They all support the hybrid BIOS. It was a thing that Intel said every 1155 board must have.

If you only need the only need boot configuration and temperature warnings, would you not save a lot of money going for a H67 board?

Then how would I use my discrete GPU and the make full use of Quick Sync at the same time then?


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