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Upgrading to a 8700k but with a dilemma
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Nope, it's just tiresome reading your same old stuff in the every thread coffeelake related, you've already been told to calm yourself last week by Mod's why don't you chill your hatred down for the 8700k, it's pretty silly, move on.
X99 is old and dead end along with being quad channel I don't want to have to buy 4 sticks of RAM, AM4 has been on my watch list but with the lack of clockspeeds and IPC I have thought against it, however if Ryzen +/2 can clock to 4.5ghz easily with a 10% IPC improvement I will probably get that. 8700k seems the best option but needing to delid it is something I'm not too happy about, I shouldn't have to do that to a £380 CPU that then voids it warranty.
We've also got to remember I mostly game on my system so the IPC/Clockspeed is the most important to me sadly, which is one of the reasons why I'm not to sure about waiting for Z390, it's not like I need the 8 cores yet but would be great for future proofing, think if I had a 3770k now I'd be more than happy to wait another year.
We've also got to remember I mostly game on my system so the IPC/Clockspeed is the most important to me sadly, which is one of the reasons why I'm not to sure about waiting for Z390, it's not like I need the 8 cores yet but would be great for future proofing, think if I had a 3770k now I'd be more than happy to wait another year.
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It is utter crap Intel are putting these CPU's out like this time after time, though I've read plenty of posts people hitting 5g without delid and temps not to high. Have a look into it see what you think, might still be worth the risk. If not the chip is selling for £400 now due to short supply, for £500 you can buy a delidded binned one that still comes with warranty. It'll cost around £80 for you to buy the stuff to delid (if you don't already have it) so £480 to DIY. If you want to stretch that far.
I was able to get 4.8ghz on all cores without a delid, 5ghz is not a necessity and tbh you won't even notice the difference in games.
I keep seeing posts about ryzen doing 4.5+ having a 10% ipc increase. I'm probably going to annoy people here but I think that is very optimistic.
Buy the best you can NOW, forget about what you MAY get in the future.
*About the delid* Yeah, I spent £400 on the CPU plus another say £50ish for the delid tool and liquid metal. Getting one already done and with a 1 year warranty makes sense if you plan to delid yourself.
If I was aiming at 4.8Ghz on all cores what kind of cooling would be the least I could get away with? Would my old Cooler Master 212 do the job or would I be looking at a NH-D15 or 240/280 AIO?
I've only ever ran it on my 240 AIO but at stock the boards do like to pump the volts!
Get the voltage down to 1.2x and you may be ok with that.
I found this post on reddit:
It'll work fine. I have a Hyper 212X (which is pretty much identical) and at 6x 4.8Ghz its mid 60s in game or 82c Max in Prime95/AVX blend @ 1.288 Vcore.
You haven't read a word I've said have you.
We're all getting sick of it now. If the OP was interested in ryzen he would have opened a thread asking about ryzen.
X99 has a better upgrade path and being quad channel offers 8-10 cores. If you're happy with 6 cores for the foreseeable future then Coffe Lake makes sense.
We're sick of you IIRC. You should maybe read the OP too. OP wants a 8c 16t chip. Gavin must talk OP into Coffe Lake.
Depends on the chip and model, Intel have very heavily pre binned Coffee lake.
Mostly gaming which is why for me the 8700k makes the most sense.
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Intel is a bit all over the place. The HEDT Kabylakes and 7800X make little sense with Coffeelake out. The artificial barrier to dropping Coffeelake into older motherboards is pitiful and the paywall for RAID on the HEDT is a pretty miserly tactic too.
I’m hoping AMD can capitalise on this. I’m currently on a 5820K and happily to just let things pan out at the moment, hopefully DRAM prices will fall and Zen+ looks the most likely way forwards if it clicks better than Zen.
Your GTX 1070 will limit the 8700K a bit in 1080p if that's your resolution. You want a GTX 1080Ti to let the 8700K stretch the legs to it's max.
So if you want more performance I think it would make sense to save some cash and go for "the middle of the road" with a cheap Z370 and a 8600K, and with the money saved wait to see what Intel does regarding mainstream octocores.
I think it would be a bad idea to go all in with ££ now just to "hope" Intel will release af mainstream octocore for the z370, then only to get disappointed to have spent so much cash on 0 upgrade path for your particular needs.
Your 1070 is going to hold back the 8700k some. Anything from a 1080 (non Ti) and above is where the benefit comes in. If you are planning a GPU upgrade as well soon definitely the 8700k.
I always futureproof my CPU for at leasts 3 GPU upgrades, it's easy switching GPU as I don't need new RAM/Motherboard each time.
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That's settled it then, not many people can upgrade their whole rig in one go, you want the best for gaming - 8700k is the best for gaming, then the GPU is the next thing to do as soon as you can.