2560x1440. I think for you it's fine because your resolution is bigger.
Upgrading to AM5, anything I should change?
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2560x1440. I think for you it's fine because your resolution is bigger.
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Have you done what I suggested in your other thread?
Do the in game performance overlay setting at a minimum and report back your timings, it'll let you know if you have a bottle neck - This is all you need.
Again though, I'm on 3440 x 1440, so higher resolution than you, a 5700X, so not quite as good as your 5800X and an RX 9070 XT (near enough the same performance as an RTX 5070 TI) and my render times are almost identical at around 13ms.
I've just loaded a game of BF6 with HWinfo on my other screen. In game I use the Ultra graphics pre-set, no upscaling, no frame gen, no future frame rendering - Averaging ~110-120fps
CPU utilisation reached at maximum value of 88.5%
GPU utilisation reached a maximum of 96%
Your GPU sitting at 60% is your problem here, which is likely a BIOS config/driver issue.
Do you have XMP enabled in your BIOS? Is your CPU clocking correctly, as this will limit GPU usage, install HWinfo, run it in the background and have a game, post what it records.
Do the in game performance overlay setting at a minimum and report back your timings, it'll let you know if you have a bottle neck - This is all you need.
Again though, I'm on 3440 x 1440, so higher resolution than you, a 5700X, so not quite as good as your 5800X and an RX 9070 XT (near enough the same performance as an RTX 5070 TI) and my render times are almost identical at around 13ms.
I've just loaded a game of BF6 with HWinfo on my other screen. In game I use the Ultra graphics pre-set, no upscaling, no frame gen, no future frame rendering - Averaging ~110-120fps
CPU utilisation reached at maximum value of 88.5%
GPU utilisation reached a maximum of 96%
Your GPU sitting at 60% is your problem here, which is likely a BIOS config/driver issue.
Do you have XMP enabled in your BIOS? Is your CPU clocking correctly, as this will limit GPU usage, install HWinfo, run it in the background and have a game, post what it records.
5800X should be topping out around 100fps in BF6
and 5070Ti depending on settings is capable of higher
so 60% GPU usage makes sense, it is indeed CPU bottleneck, but not very major one
Your plan is good, but always backup first on something external
Install SSD with new hardware
Try booting to old windows
Update bios and set XMP (bios on usb stick, update from bios is safest way)
Reinstall windows so that there are no potential conflicting drivers
and 5070Ti depending on settings is capable of higher
so 60% GPU usage makes sense, it is indeed CPU bottleneck, but not very major one
Your plan is good, but always backup first on something external
Install SSD with new hardware
Try booting to old windows
Update bios and set XMP (bios on usb stick, update from bios is safest way)
Reinstall windows so that there are no potential conflicting drivers
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At 1080p you'll see those differences, at 1440p you'll see roughly 5-10fps difference. 1% lows will be a smidge better though.
OP target is 165Hz, settings/DLSS can be tuned to allow GPU to reach that on 1440p. But since CPU even on 1080 is insufficient, doesn't really resolve the issue
I will just wait a month or so and save money for AM5.
I was tempted to buying the 5700X3D but it just feels so wrong, I can't explain. Saving up for AM5 is what I will do I think, the 5070 ti i got is only 3-4 weeks old I want to try and get the best performance out of it possible. I'm confident I would buy the 5700X3D and I will still be unsatisfied.
Also, what is a good cooler nowadays? I have a old noctua cooler but I don't think I will use it for a 9800X3D.
How do I record with HWInfo? I'll play a game and do what you said. I've been using MSI afterburner overlay to see my CPU usage peak 100%. but as i said, there was a user.cfg for battlefield which reduces the cpu usage but my fps is still ass and my gpu usage is low.
Yes I have XMP enabled. Yes my CPU is clocking correctly. The only time I seen my gpu usage hit max is when I use 3DMark bench. https://www.3dmark.com/sn/9085657
Here we go, battlefield 6, small map. Screenshotted at the lowest cpu usage, it's peaks to 90% even after the user.cfg fix. - https://ibb.co/wv7Mfdm
Turning DLSS off adds 6-8% gpu usage but makes my game run even WORSE and looks worse visually, dlss quality makes the game look decent.
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I felt the same when i changed from AM4. In the end i went for a 7800X3D
Cooler wise the Peerless Assassin is decent and not expensive.
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I meant the performance overlay in the advanced graphics settings in BF6
Do you have the Steam version of the game or the EA one?
There's a bug in the EA version that causes low GPU usage, you need to enable the launcher overlay to fix it. Not applicable if you got it on Steam though.
I see there is a 130 one but not on overclockers site, is the 120 good enough?
I meant the performance overlay in the advanced graphics settings in BF6
Do you have the Steam version of the game or the EA one?
There's a bug in the EA version that causes low GPU usage, you need to enable the launcher overlay to fix it. Not applicable if you got it on Steam though.
Doesn't MSI after burner practically do the same thing? I also just downloaded that new game Fellowship, during the tutorial my GPU reached 90% and my CPU reached as high as 90% usage too. I was getting insane stutter. Also the battlefield 6 overlay seems kind of ass, that's why I used msi afterburner and the steam overlay.
I have the Steam version.
9800X3D is easier to cool than 5800X and its the same mounting
I think whatever noctua you have will be good. To get a meaningful improvement, Arctic AIO?
I don't remember the exact one I have but it only has 1 fan, Noctua NH-D15. I've knocked it a few times whilst cleaning throughout the 5 years of using it and if I'm buying some high end AM5 parts I felt like a new cooler would be better.
The current setup I have has never reached 80 degrees with the cpu when gaming. I thought the 9800X3D would run much hotter
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That model comes with two fans, you probably re-used one of the fans (as I did a while ago) as with tons of fans in the case and dual exhaust I didn't feel dual CPU fans were needed
It only came with one fan, maybe I put the wrong model. I can't seem to find my box right now, it's lost somewhere. I think I emailed noctua a while back in regards of re-using it and they said I can but it's not recommended. I'll try find the email and update my post later.
I believe this is the one https://www.overclockers.co.uk/noctua-nh-d15s-dual-radiator-quiet-cpu-cooler-hs-031-nc.html edit actually idk, the radiator looks different here. its similar at least
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nh-d15s is the single fan version can always add a second fan not an uncommon thing
if its not damaged or anything i would see no reason not to use it [personal preferences aside i mean, obviously if you have something that you prefer for whatever reason then that is a valid reason to use something else but i cant see why not to use the noctua if it is functional still etc
ive probably missed something really obvious in reading this thread now or something lol
if its not damaged or anything i would see no reason not to use it [personal preferences aside i mean, obviously if you have something that you prefer for whatever reason then that is a valid reason to use something else but i cant see why not to use the noctua if it is functional still etc
ive probably missed something really obvious in reading this thread now or something lol
Don't worry: you have a smartphone, don't you?
Beyond that, what you can do is build the motherboard, RAM, CPU, and cooler outside the case, pull the PSU from your old system, and see if it works. If it doesn't, just hook the PSU back up to your old PC and you'll be back up and running.
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