Upgrading to Windows 10 from 7

adidan said:
I guess it's what you need it for. My gaming rig boots up and plays games, doesn't need extra features TBH.


That is all true and the rub of it is if you need features that are only available on W10 (or work better on them) then of course it's a good idea to give it a whirl.

For me the reality will be is if steamplay works really well by the time I upgrade then linux will be on it. If it's not then it will have to be W10 as it will be getting nearer to 2020.
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Free upgrade to 10 for me was no brainer, everything works fine for me , no driver issues ,all my games work great even overclocked so yes I'm happy with 10, Linux is great to experiment with ie software or try different Linux distros, again quick to install.

If I did not game I would be on Linux full time since it does most things fine, just like Windows does, only weak point is gaming side for Linux or specialised software that you may have on Windows.
 
adidan said:
Well that's sold it to me...
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Funny, isn't it. :D

Elevon said:
Better security on 10, more features, longer life span especially with 7 coming to EOL.

Getting back on topic, the only way for him to find out is do the upgrade himself, does not take long nowadays.
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2020. Coming to EOL isn't anytime soon. It's not going to self combust.

adidan said:
I guess it's what you need it for. My gaming rig boots up and plays games, doesn't need extra features TBH.


That is all true and the rub of it is if you need features that are only available on W10 (or work better on them) then of course it's a good idea to give it a whirl.

For me the reality will be is if steamplay works really well by the time I upgrade then linux will be on it. If it's not then it will have to be W10 as it will be getting nearer to 2020.
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I'm still on Windows 7 for gaming. I have 10 on the other SSD, I barely boot into it because I despise the lack of control for Windows Updates. It's bad enough putting up with it on the laptop and other PC.


As for the other poster commenting "Windows 7 feels so basic" I don't see how.
 
V F said:
Funny, isn't it. :D



2020. Coming to EOL isn't anytime soon. It's not going to self combust.



I'm still on Windows 7 for gaming. I have 10 on the other SSD, I barely boot into it because I despise the lack of control for Windows Updates. It's bad enough putting up with it on the laptop and other PC.


As for the other poster commenting "Windows 7 feels so basic" I don't see how.
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I got rid of my Win7 PCs years ago or was it a decade lol , would never go back, again it's all personal opinions and you and I can debate it all day or until the cows come home but that won't change our minds and yes 7 does have EOL, you may think 2020 is far but trust me years go by fast as you get older :), regardless getting back to the main subject he will have to upgrade to 10 himself to see if he likes it or has issues, what you or I think is really pointless in his case. It is his PC so only his opinion matters when he upgrades to 10 if he decides to go that way.

I remember using DOS 6.22 or even Amiga OS, where did those years go lol :) .
 
adidan said:
Still on W7 64.

I've lost count of the number of threads i've seen on W10 borking about with updates.
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Yeah im still on 7, everytime theres a Windows 10 update, theres post after post after post, in the Windows 10 thread, about it failing to install, people getting stuck in boot loops, hosing rigs, so they have to reinstall the whole thing yet again for the umpteenth time, this that and the other, **** that, i couldn't put up with that, no way, plus how many Dx12 games have we got, yep, ******* ****loads of em isn't there. :p
 
nlel1975 said:
I like the improvements to the UI. Going back to 7 from 10 felt like a massive downgrade.
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I don't see it personally - a few things here and there are nice on 10 UI wise such as the additions to file management dialogues but most of those were in 8 as well.

I've several systems on Windows 10 but can't say I'm particularly happy with it personally - my main gaming system is on 7 and I've reverted 1-2 other systems I actually want to use to 7 as well - if all you do is a bit of light gaming and web-browsing etc. then 10 probably isn't a big deal but if you want an OS you can (mostly) rely on - a tool that does what you ask of it when you ask it of it, etc. then 10 is considerably lacking - for instance while I mostly run them stand alone I sometimes interface my 3D printers directly and I need to know I can leave that system unattended for an indefinite length of time without the OS taking any executive actions that might interrupt ongoing tasks - Windows 10 I absolutely can't rely on to do that.

I run some portable systems, that I actually make use of as a power use, that are on 10 and the experience is quite frankly tragic - if it wasn't for the lack of driver support in anything before 10 I'd have them back on 7 or even Windows 8 (which I never believed I'd ever say) in a heartbeat.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah im still on 7, everytime theres a Windows 10 update, theres post after post after post, in the Windows 10 thread, about it failing to install, people getting stuck in boot loops, hosing rigs, so they have to reinstall the whole thing yet again for the umpteenth time, this that and the other, **** that, i couldn't put up with that, no way, plus how many Dx12 games have we got, yep, ******* ****loads of em isn't there. :p
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I've never had any problems with any Windows 10 updates. I keep backups of my whole system in case something stuffs up or I stuff it up. An example of this was recently discovered that System Restore was no longer working. I googled for help and tried a few things, in the end I tried to do a chkdsk to fix any errors at the next boot which seemed to hang at 19% so I gave up and rebooted but to be fair I didn't wait that long.

After the reboot it would not longer boot windows, it offered me a few options to fix it none of which worked, so I went back to a full system backup created in 2015 after which system restore was working again. If I didn't have these backups I'd be in a bit of a pickle.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Yeah im still on 7, everytime theres a Windows 10 update, theres post after post after post, in the Windows 10 thread, about it failing to install, people getting stuck in boot loops, hosing rigs, so they have to reinstall the whole thing yet again for the umpteenth time, this that and the other, **** that, i couldn't put up with that, no way, plus how many Dx12 games have we got, yep, ******* ****loads of em isn't there. :p
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I have had more problems with 7 then ever had with 10, in fact my brother also had the same problem on 7 as well, ie would not install updates, in the end we both had to do a reformat and clean install of Win7 to fix the issue, so I'm poniting out Win7 is not immune to issues either, sooner it dies the better IMHO, Microsoft are better of spending the manpower and resources on 10 rather then 7 IMHO.
 
Elevon said:
Microsoft are better of spending the manpower and resources on 10 rather then 7 IMHO.
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Not sure what that means TBH.

W7 EOL is 2020 anyway, it's not like you can just suddenly say sod it EOL is next week otherwise you can't rely on any future commitments.

Yeah, not really sure what you mean by that.
 
adidan said:
Not sure what that means TBH.

W7 EOL is 2020 anyway, it's not like you can just suddenly say sod it EOL is next week otherwise you can't rely on any future commitments.

Yeah, not really sure what you mean by that.
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Simple really, I rather Microsoft pull the plug on Win7 and end its life now or earlier, it was released back in July 2009 so has had a good run, by phasing it out now or sooner, Microsoft can concentrate more on Win10 then having it's manpower divided by still supporting Win7 and spending resources/man hours on Win7 which is an ageing/dying OS IMHO.
 
Elevon said:
Simple really, I rather Microsoft pull the plug on Win7 and end its life now or earlier, it was released back in July 2009 so has had a good run, by phasing it out now or sooner, Microsoft can concentrate more on Win10 then having it's manpower divided by still supporting Win7 and spending resources/man hours on Win7 which is an ageing/dying OS IMHO.
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I'd be more behind that if they were doing a great job on 10... they aren't... the same issues you talk about with updates in 7 persist in 10 only this time the end user has less ability to work around them. Though the update issue specifically you are talking about in 7 above isn't as such a Windows 7 problem - MS screwed up the backend and then left it that way (maybe on purpose to try and push people to 10) for months until they fixed it.

No one (or pretty much no one) has ever said Windows 7 is immune to issues - the key difference is that with 7 it is easier to compensate for issues and/or they are far less likely to creep up on you just when you need to rely on the OS the most i.e. you can much easier put off doing updates until a time when you know you have a bit of time to deal with any problems and won't be inconvenienced if the update decides its going to take 11 hours to complete.
 
Elevon said:
Simple really, I rather Microsoft pull the plug on Win7 and end its life now or earlier, it was released back in July 2009 so has had a good run, by phasing it out now or sooner, Microsoft can concentrate more on Win10 then having it's manpower divided by still supporting Win7 and spending resources/man hours on Win7 which is an ageing/dying OS IMHO.
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So say they'll support something for a set period of time then say "ah nah, forget that but believe us about everything else we say".

Mmmk.
 
Rroff said:
I'd be more behind that if they were doing a great job on 10... they aren't... the same issues you talk about with updates in 7 persist in 10 only this time the end user has less ability to work around them. Though the update issue specifically you are talking about in 7 above isn't as such a Windows 7 problem - MS screwed up the backend and then left it that way (maybe on purpose to try and push people to 10) for months until they fixed it.

No one (or pretty much no one) has ever said Windows 7 is immune to issues - the key difference is that with 7 it is easier to compensate for issues and/or they are far less likely to creep up on you just when you need to rely on the OS the most i.e. you can much easier put off doing updates until a time when you know you have a bit of time to deal with any problems and won't be inconvenienced if the update decides its going to take 11 hours to complete.
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That only happened for a short time last year. Or was it the previous? I cannot remember. All one had to do was to carry out cmd tasks to clear out the catalog files etc and it was sorted. Elevon formatting had new catalog files that ended up working for a short time. As it would occur again until the GMX time ended.

It's never happened since. All it required was patience.
 
I'm really hoping that when they finally drop Windows 7, they have finally resolved the issues with Windows 10. Some of the UI in 10 is much nicer than 7, granted, but taking the power to control updates away from users is incredibly short-sighted and just reeks of developers being too stuck up their own arses then to actually look at the real world. Fix the issues with Windows Update first, then take the power away, not the other way around (or just skip the former).

For a new PC by the way you might as well install Windows 10, for an older one, stick with 7 or 8.1 (not 8).
 
Thing is my PC isn't really that old only over 3 years. Thing is majority of things work on 10 now. a lot work still on 7. But the one thing i wouldn't mind having doesn't work on 7 and that's Hue Sync i know it works on 8.1 but not bloody 7 typical LOL
 
nicknack35 said:
Thing is my PC isn't really that old only over 3 years. Thing is majority of things work on 10 now. a lot work still on 7. But the one thing i wouldn't mind having doesn't work on 7 and that's Hue Sync i know it works on 8.1 but not bloody 7 typical LOL
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It's always one thing eh? :)

I guess that gives you the answer though, if you need W10 to run something you need W10 to run it.

Or 8.1 :)
 
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