Upgrading Vive to Index

GBRusty · 2 Dec 2019 at 07:45

Trox said:
Just found out I can upgrade my Vive headset only for the Index... Going by this thread the Index is a huge improvement over the Vive, but I'm unsure if I should be considering the Vive Pro.

OG Vive previously too. Get the index headset. It's just a good, solid, all round VR headset. I haven't bought the knuckles yet but it's on my list of upgrades..

Deleted User 234324 · 2 Dec 2019 at 13:49

How much is the headset on its own as an upgrade? Or is just a case of buying it from Valve and ditching the Vive?

Trox · 2 Dec 2019 at 14:54

Valve Index is £459 and can be used with the Vive Base Stations and controllers.

It's making me consider it...

Deleted User 234324 · 2 Dec 2019 at 17:12

Ah right thought maybe there was an upgrade system or something, if it's just buying the headset to replace the Vive I'll wait a while until HLA is out.

aoaaron · 2 Dec 2019 at 20:07

just wait as late as possible to maximise the chance that valve fix the controller issues.

Trox · 2 Dec 2019 at 21:22

What's wrong with the controllers? I've only read that quite a few games either feel wrong or don't support them.

GBRusty · 3 Dec 2019 at 10:37

A few people have had problems with the thumbsticks. OUt of the many thousands that have no problems you don't hear them... only the ones that have problems.
Having said that, it's a valid problem and you could end up with a duff one but Valve seem pretty good at shipping replacements.

I personally haven't got the controllers yet as the OG Vive's ones are just fine for now.

Ravenger · 3 Dec 2019 at 12:16

Trox said:
What's wrong with the controllers? I've only read that quite a few games either feel wrong or don't support them.

I got to try the Index controllers recently. Apart from the thumbstick 'click' issue where they won't click in unless they're centred, the thumbsticks feel like they're in the wrong place making using them a little awkward. (Ideally the touchpad and the thumbsticks should have been swapped).

The finger tracking and the grip 'squeeze' features are great though.

Firestar_3x · 3 Dec 2019 at 13:25

I think the above thumbstick location issue seems to be based on your hand size, the click issue is a worry but hopefully this is an issue limited to a few controllers.

aoaaron · 3 Dec 2019 at 22:58

i have used one and it had the defect.

didnt tell the guy who as he seemed really happy with the headset.

ArmitageShanks · 4 Dec 2019 at 22:06

Upgraded my Vive HMD to the Vive Pro rather than the Index (not interested in LCD panels personally), and just got the Index controllers instead.

Mine have slightly spongy clicks at some thumbstick positions, but they still click at least. I do agree that the thumbstick and touchpad positions should really have been switched.

NealR · 5 Dec 2019 at 16:56

GBRusty said:
Welcome to the Index
Oh, and I'm watching this thread so I can predict the news story of internet strangers killing one another.. I watch too many movies

Good news! Neither of us are internet stranger killers!

At least, I know I'm still alive, I'm assuming @VincentHanna still is after leaving his place earlier this week.... :cool:

But, as of earlier this morning, my Vive is up for sell, and will be purchasing the Index very soon!

Firestar_3x · 5 Dec 2019 at 17:53

My Index has been posted, woohoo!

katie279 · 5 Dec 2019 at 19:24

Hmm, I'm lurking also - thinking I might join the index club (have a vive already), does OCUK stock the index or is it only direct from valve?

I like to put money OCUK's way where possible!

sunshinewelly · 5 Dec 2019 at 20:26

katie279 said:
Hmm, I'm lurking also - thinking I might join the index club (have a vive already), does OCUK stock the index or is it only direct from valve?

I like to put money OCUK's way where possible!

From steam only. Put my order in last Friday. Went for hmd and Controllers

katie279 · 5 Dec 2019 at 21:55

Ah ok, ta!

NealR · 6 Dec 2019 at 08:12

katie279 said:
Ah ok, ta!

Noticed last night as I went to order my Index, Valve is currently out of stock of them!

Will be watching the stock like a hawk over the next few days me thinks!

paradigm · 9 Dec 2019 at 14:56

Firestar_3x said:
OG Vive owner, purchased the Index and controllers today, been on the fence about doing so but getting HL for free pushed me over the edge.

So you are continuing to use the v1.0 lighthouses. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts. I only ordered the controller's, as I'm expecting this to make the biggest difference to HL:Alyx gameplay.

I'm now thinking I should have gone headset and controller's.

Firestar_3x · 9 Dec 2019 at 15:09

paradigm said:
So you are continuing to use the v1.0 lighthouses. I'll be interested to hear your thoughts. I only ordered the controller's, as I'm expecting this to make the biggest difference to HL:Alyx gameplay.

I'm now thinking I should have gone headset and controller's.

Yep V1.0 lighthouses, no issues with tracking, could not see a compelling reason to upgrade them.

Controllers are a massive upgrade from the meat handles before, though for backwards compatibility i will be keeping the original controllers, you can pair both sets and switch between though only one set can be on at a time according to SteamVR, finger tracking takes some getting used to as does not gripping the controller all the time.

Headset is a mixed bag, blacks are worse without doubt, IPD adjustment i find less easy to finesse, HMD is fine to wear with glasses though it took some messing to get the headset weight off the bridge of my nose, Halo type strap i find better overall.

Best bits: screen door effect and layout of the pixels represents a HUGE upgrade SDE is not quite gone but just about, happy to trade black levels for this, audio from the inbuilt speakers is excellent, refresh rate at 120 or 144hz is fantastic.

ArmitageShanks · 9 Dec 2019 at 15:21

If you want maximum device compatibility, then stick with the 1.0 lighthouses. If you get the 2.0 lighthouses, you're restricted to purely 2.0 devices i.e. Index, Pimax or Vive Pro HMD and Index/Vive Pro controllers.