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I agree It isn't 24% better with regard to maximum frame rates, but it might be worth the extra fifty notes to someone for other reasons such as better performance when AA is applied, better minimum and average fps, game dependent of course. Someone else might prefer the AMD card for a completely different reason to frame rates, e.g. power draw, - something that AMD seem to have a higher priority for, and something I wish nVidia would / catch up or improve on.

Based on the graphs posted by tommybhoy the HD 6950 has higher minimum, maximum and average frame rates in the BF3 beta.

And BF3 is what this thread's about.
 
But comparing a BETA game release with drivers in various states of readiness is a bit untrust worthy.

Heres a another early test done at a slightly lower resolution,
http://gamegpu.ru/Action-/-FPS-/-TPS/Battlefield-3-Alpha-test-GPU.html

And you can see the GTX570 trading blows with the 6970.

:)

Using a Phenom II X4 940 BE!

Also [H] Is generally trusted.


I've just built myself a new rig mainly for the upcoming BF3

As with BF3, no one knows what current cards are going to outperform each other apart from knowing that the toned down(essentially) beta version liked vram.

Yes, it's hardly conclusive
 
Does it say that? it actually lists a number of CPU's at the top of the chart.

Who knows what cpu it used, imo it's irrelevant anyway as the review is done so poorly I wouldn't be basing or advising anything on that sites data!

Would you? I think not.

I think you just googled results and picked one that suited anyway!:p

[H] is usually the general place to go for trusted unbiased results.

As I said, it could all change when proper benchies come out on Tuesday, but I won't be going to http://gamegpu.ru for any data, that's for sure!
 
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Who knows what cpu it used, imo it's irrelevant anyway as the review is done so poorly I wouldn't be basing or advising anything on that sites data!

I think you just googled results and picked one that suited anyway!:p

Would you? I think not.

[H] is usually the general place to go for trusted unbiased results.

As I said, it could all change when proper benchies come out on Tuesday, but I won't be going to http://gamegpu.ru for any data, that's for sure!

So because you dont speak russian, you dont like it? how do foreign speakers make a informed purchase decision if no other site apart from [H] is to be trusted? for all you know that could be a very reliable site and held in high esteem amongst enthusiasts in their native tongue.
 
I think you just googled results and picked one that suited anyway!:p

Actually let me take the time to answer this;) there are not that many BF3 BETA/ALPHA results on the net from a "review site" here's another that was posted in the BF3 thread

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Personally... at that res I'd go with the 2GB card if I was spending that much. 6970 iceq for performance and peace and quiet :-)
 
if you dont speak English then why would someone want to visit Hardocp and trust what they say even though you cant read what they wrote and Google Translate isnt the most reliable conversion ever.?
Point out anyone in this forum that doesn't speak English!

Nothing against the Russians either, just rubbishing a benchmark that doesn't give any specific info with their benchmark:

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And yes your still searching, looking for benchmarks to put Nvidia in a good light.

You obviously take your card to bed with you at night!:p

I don't care for AMD/Nvidia, they sure as hell don't care for us, they just want our cash.

I used to be like you, I've been using computers from the ZX81 days onwards(I'm getting old in the tooth now;)) and up until my 7800GT Sli's every card I owned was from Nvidia whether they were better or not!

Now it's been 3 series of AMD cards purely for BBFB or out 6 months earlier!

If the 2GB's 560's were out at the same time as my 6950's and they didn't have the unlocking ability and I didn't already have a £40 cooler from my 5870, I would have bought them for the Physx!
 
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Point out anyone in this forum that doesn't speak English!

Nothing against the Russians either, just rubbishing a benchmark that doesn't give any specific info with their benchmark:

dda0b8c103af582657368537a7bd0de3.jpg


And yes your still searching, looking for benchmarks to put Nvidia in a good light.

You obviously take your card to bed with you at night!:p

I don't care for AMD/Nvidia, they sure as hell don't care for us, they just want our cash.

I used to be like you, I've been using computers from the ZX81 days onwards(I'm getting old in the tooth now;)) and up until my 7800GT Sli's every card I owned was from Nvidia whether they were better or not!

Now it's been 3 series of AMD cards purely for BBFB or out 6 months earlier!

If the 2GB's 560's were out at the same time as my 6950's and they didn't have the unlocking ability and I didn't already have a £40 cooler from my 5870, I would have bought them for the Physx!

So Because you can't read another language that is good enough for you to dismiss those results? Lol.

And as I said in the previous post, there are not many comparisons, if you can find another then please share it.
 
So Because you can't read another language that is good enough for you to dismiss those results? Lol.
No as I pointed out with the yellow box, it's inconclusive, who knows what cpu they tested it with, do you?

There are too many sites on the net that have preferences for red/green, I'm not interested in them!

As with BF3, no one knows what current cards are going to outperform each other apart from knowing that the toned down(essentially) beta version liked vram.

Yes, it's hardly conclusive

And as I said in the previous post, there are not many comparisons, if you can find another then please share it.

I don't need/want to as pointed out before:

Also [H] Is generally trusted.

Once there is more trusted sites with performance figures on Tuesday, we will all find out what's better.

The results that show AMD performing better will obviously be irrelevant or wrong to you as I imagine you'll only take the results that show Nvidia performing better as genuine!;)

Your adamant the 570 is going to be better regardless, I'm patient I'l wait until Tuesday or whenever until the proper sites give out the performance results!

Anyway, I'm off to bed, as we are both not going to change our minds.:)
 
So your a one site wonder;)

I dont need to look to far to find early BF3 results with a Nvidia GTX570 beating a 6950, it really is a 5 second Google search:D

The results that show AMD performing better will obviously be irrelevant or wrong to you as I imagine you'll only take the results that show Nvidia performing better as genuine

Why say this? how very strange, its bit childish dont you think? along with,

You obviously take your card to bed with you at night!

Which add nothing to this thread or discussion and is in fact trolling;)
 
So your a one site wonder;)

I dont need to look to far to find early BF3 results with a Nvidia GTX570 beating a 6950, it really is a 5 second Google search:D



Why say this? how very strange, its bit childish dont you think? along with,



Which add nothing to this thread or discussion and is in fact trolling;)

It's not childish, you have nothing but green glasses on, like I used to have the same pair as you!

Waste of time!

You'll do well here!

What's the point in changing my quote to suit your needs?

With a user name like yours, it's evident people who read this thread fully, and read our for/against points, they will judge for themselves who the troll is!
 
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Waste of time!

You'll do well here!

With a user name like yours, it's evident people who read this thread fully, and read our for/against points, they will judge for themselves who the troll is!

I've added nothing but useful information, you have shown a single review site;) by my reckoning its 2-1 to me:p

Also remember this PC for the OP is for many games and not just BF3;) or did you miss that part?

mainly for the upcoming BF3

mainly not exclusively;)

What's the point in changing my quote to suit your needs?

What are you on about? the wording is exactly as you have it:rolleyes: please point out to me where any words have been altered?
 
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save money and get the 6950 iceq with 6970 fan. and oc it 880/1375 or more. or unlock the tfiii. £60 for an extra 1 fps is hardly worth it.
 
Current pricing 6950 hands down, theres just no point wasting the extra on higher cards. 570gtx's when they were going for £220, its a real choice, if you perfer Nvidia only £20 more, it was a not bad comprise. However, in the past two weeks I've seen 6950's from very few at £160 for a day, and several deals for £180-190 even at the more expensive stores(like OCUK :p ).

£180-190 vs £260 for a 570gtx, there is no comparison, at all.

You're choices should really be single or xfire 6950's, or single/sli 560gtx's frankly for the prices available.

EVERY card above those two, from both companies, are simply poor value. This gen, with the card choice and pricing available I'd prefer to spend £200 at most on a card, or go the whole hog and go sli/xfire with two of the same cards rather than any of the 250+ options.
 
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